Economist
Mar 3 2008, 06:32 PM
Interior looks not bad....some sort of hot hatch kind of interior........
Wah nowdays gotta watch our back...All CPS fellas will be tryin to come up right behind us.....
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/03/03/200...h-cps-launched/
freddie
Mar 3 2008, 06:43 PM
i never liked the steering...
but 145 horses in a gen2 can be a threat to the lancer.
bwtc
Mar 3 2008, 06:52 PM
QUOTE(freddie @ Mar 3 2008, 06:43 PM)

i never liked the steering...
but 145 horses in a gen2 can be a threat to the lancer.
Hey, it's definitely a threat, even with 125hp, 0-100km/h in 10.6s, i would have bought this if it was available when I was in my 20's.
Looks gd, especially d seats.
KING
Mar 3 2008, 07:08 PM
QUOTE(bwtc @ Mar 3 2008, 06:52 PM)

No worry lah, gen2 cps got only 127hp@6,500rpm and 150Nm torque@4,500rpm (show higher numbers bcoz of higher rpm, not on real omph), even though cps+vim cure some its torque curve problem, pick-up still no match vs mitsu (a lot of gen2 kakis cant wait to throw away the Campro and throw in the real 4g63). Watch for the top speed lah...CamTakPro Gen2 can do 190km/h, (some even do 200km/h)...CPS likely can break 200km/h mark.
bwtc
Mar 3 2008, 07:11 PM
QUOTE(KING @ Mar 3 2008, 07:08 PM)

No worry lah, gen2 cps got only 127hp@6,500rpm and 150Nm torque@4,500rpm (show higher numbers bcoz of higher rpm, not on real omph), even though cps+vim cure some its torque curve problem, pick-up still no match vs mitsu. Watch for the top speed lah...CamTakPro Gen2 can do 190km/h, (some even do 200km/h)...CPS likely can break 200km/h mark.
Bro KING,
If u look at the claimed 0-100km/h time, it's in 10.6s, d last time we checked, we could only get 9.8s, n most were in 10s. They can stay behind our ass like glue la.
KING
Mar 4 2008, 03:29 PM
QUOTE(bwtc @ Mar 3 2008, 07:11 PM)

Bro KING,
If u look at the claimed 0-100km/h time, it's in 10.6s, d last time we checked, we could only get 9.8s, n most were in 10s. They can stay behind our ass like glue la.

No doubt, gen2 CPS is stronger than the gen2 CamTakPro...but still a distance to go to catch up with Lancer and Civic.
About the 0-100 time, our methodology is not scientific.
According to MSN at:
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/Spec_Gla...r&trimid=-1Lancer GTS (M/T) 0-96 time is 8.36s
Lancer GTS (CVT) 0-96 time is 8.66s
last time i read the Lancer vs Civic comparison in AutocarASEAN, their tested 0-100 time is 9.2s...our drivers may also need to shed some lbs.
alxand_mitsubishi
Mar 7 2008, 10:14 AM
well if this gen2 come out in beginning, i think more ppl bought gen2 liao... now they need more homework to gain back confident...
Economist
Mar 7 2008, 10:38 AM
I also dunno how come they can sell a car wif engine that says CAMPRO but takada PRO
its like selling honda wif VTEC engine but the VTEC not functioning
or Toyota wif VVTI but VVTI not on
or MITSU wif MIVEC but MIVEC off
speedzaa
Mar 7 2008, 10:46 AM
aiya, i dont care the top speed fast or slow the go on...i bought this car coz of the look....the look of lancer can win them enuff liao.....fullstop
overdrive
Mar 7 2008, 10:53 AM
Yeah, thats the spirit, totally agreee 101%!
damnguy
Mar 7 2008, 11:20 AM
all the persona owner..............................

no CPS (being cheat feeling)only few month u come out with the CPS in gen-2!!! now my friend gen-2, 2nd hand value lower than ever!! 1 years plus gen-2 sell only 30k!!! can proton make up their mind of which car they want to develop as the main 1.6 model!!!!! why ppl still support proton??? i really dont know!!!
alxand_mitsubishi
Mar 7 2008, 11:39 AM
when i heard of the real campro, i tot persona n all gen2 new facelift will have it... but no... they really suck big time...
anyway tat's real life scenario...
freddie
Mar 7 2008, 11:44 AM
proton wanna save the best for last... so that they can continue selling the cars.
why does proton care about resale value? as long as their new cars can sell.
alxand_mitsubishi
Mar 7 2008, 11:46 AM
anwar say he win he drop oil price... how???
freddie
Mar 7 2008, 11:50 AM
QUOTE(alxand_mitsubishi @ Mar 7 2008, 11:46 AM)

anwar say he win he drop oil price... how???
hehe bullshit. he knows for sure he wont win... why?
because he isnt one of the candidates.
SC999
Mar 7 2008, 11:52 AM
wait till he read the real financial statement of bolehland first. he probably wish not to be elected.
alxand_mitsubishi
Mar 7 2008, 11:56 AM
we owe too much, tat y glc making money try to cover the hole but can only use half of profit as half goes to someones account...
if not mistaken each baby born now had already owe other money as country kept on borrow from other... last time they say each citizen indirectly owe like 3k... now i dunno
Economist
Mar 7 2008, 12:02 PM
QUOTE
all the persona owner..............................

no CPS (being cheat feeling)only few month u come out with the CPS in gen-2!!! now my friend gen-2, 2nd hand value lower than ever!! 1 years plus gen-2 sell only 30k!!! can proton make up their mind of which car they want to develop as the main 1.6 model!!!!! why ppl still support proton??? i really dont know!!!
this is like MMM la........1st GT then GLS wif beige interior then GLS wif black interior...then GT increase price.......
Of course proton is worse.......i wonder my fren gen 2 hi line 1.6 2005 worth how much now.......
Ironman
Mar 9 2008, 10:48 AM
buddies, what's special about the campro engine??? is it the engine supplied by renaut??
overdrive
Mar 10 2008, 11:51 AM
QUOTE(Ironman @ Mar 9 2008, 10:48 AM)

buddies, what's special about the campro engine??? is it the engine supplied by renaut??
Nope, its designed by Lotus (not Proton!) and it basically comes with cam switching (for improved power) and a variable intake manifold (for improved torque). Sounds good, but their reliability still needs to be proven.
alxand_mitsubishi
Mar 10 2008, 04:09 PM
just imagine mivec in proton engine which was design by lotus with some info from mitsubishi engine :) wat i heard when campro launch years ago is tat it was resign by lotus with basic design of mitsubishi engine, tat y, when campro fits to the car, tat car can also fits mitsubishi engine :) which is not surprising me as copy here n there is best way n fastest way to success which we haven't see in the proton now, beside they're catching up the to sell more in our market, good sign for them, persona, new waja n blm, this 3 rocks for proton now... hope it continue :)
KING
Mar 10 2008, 08:15 PM
Proton do Campro like playing Lego...
1st, CamTakPro, got so so hp, lousy torque...
Next, CamTakPro + IAFM (aka VIM), got so so hp, better torque...
Finally, CamTakPro + VIM + CPS, got better hp at higher rpm, better torque.
I test drove Gen2, pickup sucks...Persona, pickup better but still sucks...New Saga, pickup sucks...
Not test any CPS yet, but looking forward to do it.
alxand_mitsubishi
Mar 10 2008, 08:46 PM
good way to describe them... but i heard new gen2 is good... haven't tested either :)
Ironman
Mar 30 2008, 02:33 AM
QUOTE(overdrive @ Mar 10 2008, 11:51 AM)

Nope, its designed by Lotus (not Proton!) and it basically comes with cam switching (for improved power) and a variable intake manifold (for improved torque). Sounds good, but their reliability still needs to be proven.
thanks lot for the explanation, overdrive.
ce9a
Mar 30 2008, 03:33 PM
I'm really torn between liking or hating the new Gen 2. Part of me is proud that Proton has come up with an engine with respectable power output (similar to the Suzuki Swift Sport). Another part of me is just afraid of getting smoked by these sub RM60k cars...
eldiablo
Mar 30 2008, 11:16 PM
The interior is a step up for sure from previous version - nice seats too!
Overall sporty theme is nice and different from the Waja and Persona.
KING
Aug 13 2008, 07:23 PM
Hmmm, a review on Proton Gen2 CPS by Paultan:
http://paultan.org/archives/2008/08/13/pro...ual-test-drive/The impressiv part, the dyno chart shows its manual box only makan 12% of power (110hp on wheel vs 125hp on crank)...if our gt gearbox has tat kinda number, seaweed can kiss our ass liao!!!
donyong
Aug 15 2008, 09:28 AM
thats y I have been waiting for the SAGA 1.6 CPS...
that wan can really give our lancer a run for money...and also take on suzuki swift sport 1.6....
KING
Aug 15 2008, 09:04 PM
QUOTE(donyong @ Aug 15 2008, 09:28 AM)

thats y I have been waiting for the SAGA 1.6 CPS...
that wan can really give our lancer a run for money...and also take on suzuki swift sport 1.6....
Ha ha, still a big NO to proton...after few months, the car may give u free nyik-nyok kling-klung music everywhere, free suspension & chasis vibration massage, engine plays suddenly up & down macam mau mati tak mati game wif u, all lights blipping out of control like disco and finally, the BIG finale of bursting into flaming glory firework stunt....of course, all these will come together with the industry-best owner-also-cannot-masuk pwr window pwr door lock security system.
eldiablo
Aug 16 2008, 02:03 AM
bro.... not so bad - my previous ride was a good drive and reliable.
KING
Aug 16 2008, 12:01 PM
He he, of coz not tat bad, jus kidding lah...some1 must be really really lucky to get all those problems...can beli lottery liao if happen
eldiablo
Aug 16 2008, 12:09 PM
DarkWRC
Aug 16 2008, 09:25 PM
For me,
I don't even bother how much the power CPS produce...
I still like my LANCER...
strike961
Aug 16 2008, 09:52 PM
Dear Bros,
Why bother to compare ourselve with Proton? I personally saw this Gen 2 CPS before i booked my lancer. I can only say that photographic techniques have improved over years and i was so impressed by the photos taken on this Gen 2 CPS. Sitting in the car, the feel is totally different. Then again, we "should not" expect much from something sub 60k. Of course, we should not even compare our > 100k rides to this car.
I don't like to be cucuked by ppl from the back...that's why i changed my old C200 to Lancer after kena makan by swift sport&civic mugen. Sometimes even tailed by city vtec. Pai seh....but nowadays with our paddle shift, i don't think these cars can easily smoke us though they may be able to give us a nice tail. Sometimes there are some big brothers like Scooby / Type R / M5...etc which come to my tail... i will try my best to pull away...and if i fail...i will show them a big thumb with my heart saying...yeah...you are much better. What will happen if a CPS tails me? I will do the same thing. If they can overtake me at 210km/hr then i will definitely give them a big salute:)
Nonetheless, safety always my first concern on the road. Hehe. I would not go siao with anyone if traffic condition does allow me to. So bro, CPS/not CPS...why we bother? Unless we want to get a second car. Good choice indeed for the amount of money.
Regards,
strike961
eldiablo
Aug 19 2008, 07:44 AM
no need to get so serious strike961 - car enthusiasts TCSS only....
I actually considered getting one for family and it looked like a pretty good buy for that price range.
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