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JohnsonLam
I browsed around online and purchased a few upgrades.. hehhe.


Fiber Blades !!


CNC Upgrade


and bought a few spare parts... ooh.. now.. so excited.. Sadly.. I am waiting for my GLS and my Heli parts all at the same time.. double the frust !!!!
J195
wooo.. like the CNC upgrade. How much is it ? You upgrade the Servo part only or all ? :)

speedzaa
wah lao bro johnsonlam, so fast u broke my ex-wife already ahh? confused.gif
JohnsonLam
QUOTE(J195 @ May 8 2008, 04:22 PM) *
wooo.. like the CNC upgrade. How much is it ? You upgrade the Servo part only or all ? :)


opps.. CNC upgrade out of stock.. they can't quote me..

Just got the blade and belt for now..
JohnsonLam
QUOTE(speedzaa @ May 8 2008, 08:09 PM) *
wah lao bro johnsonlam, so fast u broke my ex-wife already ahh? confused.gif


rolleyes.gif rolleyes.gif hehehe..
But no worries.. she will be Well tonite.. all the parts I ordered last night arrived already.. thumbsup.gif
freddie
speedza, you ex-wife gonna get a boob job plus some facelifts tonight. laugh.gif
speedzaa
ahhh........from pure heli to gangsta type already tongue.gif
JohnsonLam
Quick update : The Heli is flying again.. The new blades are much heavier, but it is more stable too. And the sound when it is spinning is like real helicopter.

drain 1 battery just from tuning the blades... and tried some hovering. Will charge up and go out to the field tomorrow morning.. hahaha..

hmmm.. hands ichy now... time for :

- Carbon Fiber upgrade
- CNC gears
- Motor upgrade
- Headlock Gyro
- more batteries..
- maybe.. more helicopter units? :)

hehehe.. poisoned.
J195
bro.. show us pics of your new upgrade later :)
freddie
QUOTE(JohnsonLam @ May 9 2008, 10:42 PM) *
hmmm.. hands ichy now... time for :

- Carbon Fiber upgrade
- CNC gears
- Motor upgrade
- Headlock Gyro
- more batteries..
- maybe.. more helicopter units? :)

hehehe.. poisoned.

remember to put some money aside for lancer upgrade. laugh.gif
JohnsonLam
ooooh.. yeah.....

Extreme Blades Upgraded...
JohnsonLam
bummer... what I can say is... I SUCK at flying.. Full Stop. verymad.gif verymad.gif verymad.gif I can't seem to control the Heli well, it will go out of control in less than 30 seconds of hovering...

Almost giving up hope.. now I need more parts to replace the Heli...

Picture :
- Bent tail
- broken dunno what fin is it called.
- The main rotor blade got a deep cut

verymad.gif verymad.gif
J195
Bro.,.. this blade made in plastic or wood ?
JohnsonLam
QUOTE(J195 @ May 10 2008, 05:40 PM) *
Bro.,.. this blade made in plastic or wood ?


Fiber Plastic
freddie
i sincerely hope you'll do better in a lancer. sweat.gif
JohnsonLam
QUOTE(freddie @ May 12 2008, 11:45 AM) *
i sincerely hope you'll do better in a lancer. sweat.gif


I think i will .. teehee.gif
So far.. the last accident I had was 6 years ago on my 1st car... and the other one is Drifting accident.. Crashed my Toyota TE71 into ditch while still going sideways... thumbsup.gif Can still drive 210km home... biggrin.gif
speedzaa
wahh bro john, how u control the heli until the tail oso kena bent ahh lol......suggest u to change to metal tail type lol (but dunno can fly anot due to heavy biggrin.gif )
JohnsonLam
QUOTE(speedzaa @ May 12 2008, 06:24 PM) *
wahh bro john, how u control the heli until the tail oso kena bent ahh lol......suggest u to change to metal tail type lol (but dunno can fly anot due to heavy biggrin.gif )


See lah.. this 24th.. I go down KL.. then go to the shop and look see look see.. maybe buy Carbon Fiber tail.. and other upgrades... see mood first.. hahah..
Barricade
Alamak...lucky I found this thread as I have sometime browsing... whistling.gif

Little intro...I just started this hobby...abt 3 months. Initially of course Lama V3, then I gatal bought the Walkera HM053. Then I bought the Esky Belt CP. My ultimate aim is to get a GP Heli by year end. But for now I rest on EP Heli... biggrin.gif

Now I am still refining my skill on the Belt. My Belt CP considered heavily mod. Transmitter now Futaba 2.4Ghz. All the servos changed to Hitec and the blades are composites, as well as the fin/stabilizers. Also changed the cabin to white color t-rex cabin.

I still use the pingpong (training kit). Last time I didn't use, my heli heavy landing/topple 3 times, which is in fact costly to change the parts. So now play safe maa...no more short cut to perfection...hehehe... biggrin.gif As a supplement I train using the 'reflex' simulation software.

But now I have problems with the simulator set up, maybe youguys can help...

Still brushing up skill, flying 'tail in'. I not dare to fly 'nose in' as my skills are not there yet. I plan to go to Puchong Prima this weekend and get better xposure from many sifus there. Any of you guys playing there? rolleyes.gif
Barricade
I am new to this hobby. But I can give you guys a piece of advice. It is an addictive hobby, same like golf.

For really a beginner. The BEST platform for training is ESKY LAMA V3/V4. It is a co-axial heli, meaning it has double main rotor blade, NO tail rotor. This heli is priced at around RM200. You can get at rcsmart (Amcorp PJ) at RM190. The same heli with price RM300+ is due to the pricey Transmitter...2.4Ghz one...this heli is a 4 channel one and it is suitable for indoor. Outdoor is limited...if windy don't play, but if no wind, no problem.

4 Channel means you have the control for the vital axis i.e. Pitching (nose up/down), yaw (nose slide left/right), roll (bank to the left/right). It is suffice for beginners. And it is quite easy to master. I can hover this heli after 10 training flights.Furthermore this heli is durable. Heavy landing and scratched blade can still fly one.

For beginners to intermediate, to get a real heli flying (with tail rotor) that's where the 6 channel comes into place. 6 channel offers 3-D flight, meaning inverted flight (flying upside down). But it is for the pro. I dont do that, and I deactivate the 'idle up'/3D switch in my transmitter (safety reason).

There's plenty of 6 channels e.g Bee King, Belt CP, Align T-rex and so forth. But for these platforms, you can change the channels to even 9 channels as long as you change the transmitter and receiver.

I opted for Belt CP over Bee King as I feel the former is heavier, thus stronger mainframe.Whereas Bee King is frame is slim, esp the tail boom. But both the choppers you can get the parts easily. That's the most important, parts support. Don't buy helis with hard to get parts like Walkera

For training purposes, use the training kit (ping pong) and attach to the skid. This is to prevent the heli to sustain heavy damage in the event of hard landing. My advise is to fly low level...abt 3 feet AGL (At Ground Level) and slowly practise the controls, turn left, right...slowly slide to left and right.

It is a KEPUASAN if you can hover the heli...nikmat maaa....One other thing is to train to fly in a 'tail in' manner, meaning the tail must face the player (you). If you go overboard then immediately turn the nose upfront with the tail facing you. With this you have better control.

For beginners...dont fly the heli 'nose in'...with the nose facing you. This will create orientation problem since many vital controls are opposite in this manner. With nose in, if you turn the joystick control to the left, the heli in turn will turn to the right and you will be disoriented and the heli will eventually crash. mage.gif

For the spot where the hobyist play (that I know of):

Puchong - Puchong Prima (this Sunday I may check it out)
Putra Heights
Puncak Alam

There's one place at Damansara (I think Mutiara Damansara kot)

For you guys that want to have some price indication. Here an URL: http://www.rcsmart.com.my
The guys are great there.
I bought mine at lelong.com.my for great deal (bid) but modified by buying the parts at rcsmart.
J195
hey bro... now we have another sifu here. Thanks for all the useful info la.
Me just crashed my V4 last weekends. One blade broken. Will replace it with 4 plastic one (from another heli)

exactly where in Putra Height got people play ? and normally what time and what day ?

Thanks.. will drop by PH :)

BTW, practice using simulator is it useful ? from what I think, it is different from playing real.
Barricade
QUOTE(J195 @ May 16 2008, 06:31 PM) *
hey bro... now we have another sifu here. Thanks for all the useful info la.
Me just crashed my V4 last weekends. One blade broken. Will replace it with 4 plastic one (from another heli)

exactly where in Putra Height got people play ? and normally what time and what day ?

Thanks.. will drop by PH :)

BTW, practice using simulator is it useful ? from what I think, it is different from playing real.



I'm no sifu bro...still rookie. Putra Heights...hmmm...well, I'm not really familliar with that place. I got to know from a dude who said he always play there with other players. He did describe the area, but as I am not familiar with the area...'masuk telinga kanan, keluar telinga kiri'...somethimes when 'lepaking' at the shop (rcsmart), you'll get the chance to stumble upon ppl with same interest,hence xchanging ideas/infos.

Puchong Prima also I'm not familiar.....just try my luck this weekend. They say ppl there play at an open area near lake... rolleyes.gif Normally be it PH or Puchong Prima or other areas, the players play during weekends' morning...Saturdays and Sundays.

As for the simulator.Well all I can say is the simulator that comes with LAMA V4 is a simple one (you can even download from the net). If you want to get a better one, try the Reflex simulator. The graphics are gorgeous. Pricewise around RM200 (comes with CD and cables that are compatible with ESKY, Futaba and another maker i forgot).

The best sim here I think is the G4 thumbsup.gif

But if you have the chance, I would suggest you come to Amcorp RCSMART shop at level 2 beside Seri Melaka. Here, at one corner there is a simulator facility....G4 with transmiter. You can play for free. But last 2 days I went, no simulator as they have to accomodate new stocks for their product. But it's temporary ma...

Simulator helps a lot since you can easily try many things that you dare not trying in real heli.....unless you are rich enough...it helps to build up proficiency before you fly the real thing. thumbsup.gif
JohnsonLam
Barricade..

Wah.. good info.. I might get one of the LAMA for fun. Will be in KL on 23rd.. maybe will check out the places.
J195
QUOTE(Barricade @ May 17 2008, 12:29 AM) *
I'm no sifu bro...still rookie. Putra Heights...hmmm...well, I'm not really familliar with that place. I got to know from a dude who said he always play there with other players. He did describe the area, but as I am not familiar with the area...'masuk telinga kanan, keluar telinga kiri'...somethimes when 'lepaking' at the shop (rcsmart), you'll get the chance to stumble upon ppl with same interest,hence xchanging ideas/infos.

Puchong Prima also I'm not familiar.....just try my luck this weekend. They say ppl there play at an open area near lake... rolleyes.gif Normally be it PH or Puchong Prima or other areas, the players play during weekends' morning...Saturdays and Sundays.

As for the simulator.Well all I can say is the simulator that comes with LAMA V4 is a simple one (you can even download from the net). If you want to get a better one, try the Reflex simulator. The graphics are gorgeous. Pricewise around RM200 (comes with CD and cables that are compatible with ESKY, Futaba and another maker i forgot).

The best sim here I think is the G4 thumbsup.gif

But if you have the chance, I would suggest you come to Amcorp RCSMART shop at level 2 beside Seri Melaka. Here, at one corner there is a simulator facility....G4 with transmiter. You can play for free. But last 2 days I went, no simulator as they have to accomodate new stocks for their product. But it's temporary ma...

Simulator helps a lot since you can easily try many things that you dare not trying in real heli.....unless you are rich enough...it helps to build up proficiency before you fly the real thing. thumbsup.gif



waa... lots of info here. Thanks bro.. will try to check out at RCS first. Sunday ada buka ke ? :)

As in Putra Height, I hear remote control aeroplace more often, flying at high speed in the sky. But I don't know where exactly is the owner controlling them. Sometimes a few chasing each other in the sky. Guess they are pro :)



Barricade
Yesterday hang out at the shop there (Amcorp). Bought battery but lepak for almost 2 hours playing the G4 sim (seems less customers and myself regular customer maa). Training & training to perfection...until I can make figure 8 and fly around in circuit.

But that's sim. I doubt I can do as perfect as the sim in the real thing... biggrin.gif . But come weekend plan to go to the area where hobbyist play. At last I know the area...Taman Putera Prima Puchong. Apparently met a "Honcho" when he bought something there yesterday.

I am not hasty but nowadays fly safe...hehehe...to avoid spending on the parts ( if crash lor). The money saved is needed to buy the gas powered (GP) heli later this year and not forgetting to mod my car to Evo X... thumbsup.gif
J195
This morning saw someone playing LAMA v3 at JPJ KL car park :)
Battery seems to last for a while only la.

Barricade
Don't get it wrong bro...for EP(Electric Powered-battery) operated r/c heli, the most you can last flying is 10 to 15 minutes. For LAMA V3 I used to play continous 15 minutes. For my Belt CP continuous also the same. The more power you use the more your heli will eat the battery, esp during hover and slow low level flying.

That's why one needs spare batteries. I have had 2 batteries for my LAMA. Now I have 3 batteries for my Belt CP. I used to have 5 but 2 have been used up and went to the trash.

Batteries also different. You have 2 (7.4V) cells, 3 (11.1V) cells, 6 cells. LAMA and its class are 2cells. Even 2 cells have diff pwr output. If I'm not mistaken for LAMA 2 cells pwr o/put is 800mAH. Others have 1000mAH and so on. though they have the same 7.4V.

Even your King II battery is not the same as my Belt CP though both are 3 cells (11.1V). Mine is 2100mAH and the minimum I can use is 1800mAH. Your's I'm not sure...maybe 1100mAH.

Pricewise for LAMA battery is approx RM80. My CP's batt is RM150.

For GP (Gas Powered - Fuel) powered heli somewhat the same in terms for flight time...also 15 minutes. BUT you can top up the gas and fly again. For EP up can do the same provided you have many spare batteries. And the downpart is you need 2-3 hours to fully charged your batt, compares to LAMA that needs 1 hour to charge. whistling.gif

I have met several pros and ask for their views on EP vs GP r/c helis. Here are some of their inputs/feedback that I can conclude:

- EP helis have quite big 'launched' investment (short term). These include batteries, replacement parts (when crash), upgrade parts and etc. But when you are proficient in flying them then the running cost would be low as you only have to invest on batteries only.

The only drawback for EP is that it is small and not as complicated as GP. Hence the handling is more twitchy and need more concentration from the player. It is also much influenced to the wind.

-GP helis are big, complicated and yet they are stable.One pro told me that they can be as stable as LAMA. ohmy.gif
But the only disadvantage is that they are costly in long term. Not because of the fuel but GP helis need tender maintenance.

But for me, GP is my ultimate aim...think satisfaction is there. As for time being,i rest on my EP and happy with it. happy.gif 408.gif rauch23.gif
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