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medowance
So far this is my understanding of the 2 brand of camera which may guide you to which to purchase so you don have to upgrade later

Canon arrangement of level for its camera
1000D - super entry level (noob :D)
350/400/450D - Entry/Amateur Level
30/40/50D - Intermediate Level
1 / any single digit - Pro Level

Nikon,
D40/40x/60 - Entry Level
D70/D80/D90 - Amateur/Intermediate
D200/300/700 (full frame) - Intermediate/Advance Intermediate
D single digit - Pro level
JohnsonLam
Canon EOS 500D coming soon..

complete with HD video recording !! and Digic IV processor... it's a must !!
mauryyk
Actually you can never go wrong with Nikon or Canon.

But its true that both maker have its advantage/disadvantage.

To make it simple : If you want to shoot at people -ala paparazzi- better go for Nikon.
( they have much more advance calculation in focusing speed )

: If you want to shoot at scenery, macro etc better go for Canon
( Color reproduction and lenses quality is the best )

But since I'm working with Canon, my opinion can biased. heheheh
I myself using EOS 1V and EOS 40D...actually its my company one.
Never buy one...just "borrow".
nightwatchman
Nikon brand cheaper.. hahah.. biggrin.gif
zahang
nikon vs canon? case close la..both are front player in DSLR.. just d matter of which model..

lately as far as i know.. nikon price was increased due 2 yen-RM... but dunno bout canon..
WhiteSurfer
QUOTE(mauryyk @ Apr 16 2009, 05:31 PM) *
Actually you can never go wrong with Nikon or Canon.


Bro....dont forget to ask for me arr. If possible b4 end of this month...got a secret project to do.

EOS 1000D will do nicely thumbsup.gif
terion
weird but how come no sony alpha users here...
beeman
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 17 2009, 10:26 AM) *
weird but how come no sony alpha users here...


One here, alpha 300, entry level biggrin.gif
mauryyk
QUOTE(WhiteSurfer @ Apr 17 2009, 12:33 AM) *
Bro....dont forget to ask for me arr. If possible b4 end of this month...got a secret project to do.

EOS 1000D will do nicely thumbsup.gif



will inform on tuesday
Economist
http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/digitalcamera...tm?scid=nl_c_cg

Nikon D5000 First Take

http://asia.cnet.com/reviews/digitalcamera...4635505p,00.htm

Canon EOS 500D First Take

so which to get? confused.gif
nightwatchman
D5000 with new Vary-angle monitor/swivel LCD, D-movie also... devil.gif
mauryyk
QUOTE(WhiteSurfer @ Apr 17 2009, 12:33 AM) *
Bro....dont forget to ask for me arr. If possible b4 end of this month...got a secret project to do.

EOS 1000D will do nicely thumbsup.gif


It seems the company already abolish the 30% cost down for its staff.
bad year!!!

i manage to check the price

eos1000D KitI : RM1950..body + 18-55mm.
eos450D KitI : RM2660..body + 18-55mm.
eos450D KitII : RM4000..body + 18-200mm.

think better buy in sg wang...
I strongly suggest you pick the 450D...the 1000D have some issue...
like cannot zoom during picture viewing on LCD...i think
Koonx
QUOTE(mauryyk @ Apr 22 2009, 12:23 PM) *
It seems the company already abolish the 30% cost down for its staff.
bad year!!!

i manage to check the price

eos1000D KitI : RM1950..body + 18-55mm.
eos450D KitI : RM2660..body + 18-55mm.
eos450D KitII : RM4000..body + 18-200mm.

think better buy in sg wang...
I strongly suggest you pick the 450D...the 1000D have some issue...
like cannot zoom during picture viewing on LCD...i think

1000D can zoom during picture viewing leh... buy 2nd hand... I found one 2009 450D with kit... onli RM2100
WhiteSurfer
QUOTE(mauryyk @ Apr 22 2009, 12:23 PM) *
It seems the company already abolish the 30% cost down for its staff.
bad year!!!

i manage to check the price

eos1000D KitI : RM1950..body + 18-55mm.
eos450D KitI : RM2660..body + 18-55mm.
eos450D KitII : RM4000..body + 18-200mm.

think better buy in sg wang...
I strongly suggest you pick the 450D...the 1000D have some issue...
like cannot zoom during picture viewing on LCD...i think



Thank you bro. Managed to check out the Sony Alpha 300 as well...nice specs and the LiveView is different from those on 1000D. And the LCD can be tilted as well thumbsup.gif They offer 2 different packages and the price is def cheaper than C & N, now in dilemma biggrin.gif . Maybe I will just wait and see.....
medowance
I got a friend's friend is selling his D80 with kit lens @ RM 2,500.00 (age of equipment < 1 year and under utilized as he is in Dubai now; still under warranty price still negotiable).

Anyone wants it let me know I'll pass his contact to you guys.
Koonx
courtesy of Lowyat.net
Prices for Canon 500D

here are the extracts:-

sg.wang selling rm3630 including:-
1. 500D with kit
2. 8gb memory card
3. bag
4. tripod
5. battery grip( pwp rm400)

In Photo Shangri-La, Mid Valley:
Canon EOS 500D (Kit Lens) + 8GB SDHC (Transcend) + OEM DSLR Bag = RM3150.
Canon Battery Grip = RM400.

In YL Pudu at rm3230 with uv filter,screen protector, bag and 4gb card

oh... Canon is giving out 3 years warranty on the body...
dcspeed
Canon 500D with lens kit at RM3150 consider very very good price I assume....
medowance
Hmmm wat other packages it's giving you??
dcspeed
check from lowyat.net ... I told koonx about this price package for the canon 500D actually... quite a good price I think... anyone can get lower than this price please let me know... I'm looking for this model also...
WhiteSurfer
Yesterday finally bought Canon 1000D kit...but second hand la, the set was bought in Feb 2009 and shuttercount is 2200 only. Bought for RM1300 at Cash Converter Ampang. OK la save about 700 bucks I guess biggrin.gif

Next on list shud be flashgun, 50mm lens and another longer zoom......izzit correct??
Koonx
QUOTE(WhiteSurfer @ May 23 2009, 11:25 AM) *
Yesterday finally bought Canon 1000D kit...but second hand la, the set was bought in Feb 2009 and shuttercount is 2200 only. Bought for RM1300 at Cash Converter Ampang. OK la save about 700 bucks I guess biggrin.gif

Next on list shud be flashgun, 50mm lens and another longer zoom......izzit correct??

no a bad deal u got there.... to me 50mm F1.8 is a good buy. and if u dun mind 2nd hand, Ive seen EFS55-200 at less than RM500. Nissin is a quite commonly used 3rd party flash.
ZEROCOOL
I think to start me off, im going to get the Olympus SP-565UZ 10MP 20x. I want to be able to take amzing car pics. I can get it for 250 usd shipped.
Twister
QUOTE(ZEROCOOL @ May 29 2009, 05:43 PM) *
I think to start me off, im going to get the Olympus SP-565UZ 10MP 20x. I want to be able to take amzing car pics. I can get it for 250 usd shipped.


Since DSLR is getting cheaper might as well get a decent DSLR than those Prosumer camera.
For long run DSLR is worthy with better picture quality, changeble lenses and more controls.

Consumer DSLR options:
Canon 1000D, 500D
Nikon D5000

Getting Sony will end up spending more on lenses and accessories. Olympus is using the unusual 4:3 format.
The rest can forget it coz only big companies hv better R&D.

Just my 2 cents.
ZEROCOOL
QUOTE(Twister @ May 30 2009, 05:12 PM) *
Since DSLR is getting cheaper might as well get a decent DSLR than those Prosumer camera.
For long run DSLR is worthy with better picture quality, changeble lenses and more controls.

Consumer DSLR options:
Canon 1000D, 500D
Nikon D5000

Getting Sony will end up spending more on lenses and accessories. Olympus is using the unusual 4:3 format.
The rest can forget it coz only big companies hv better R&D.

Just my 2 cents.


Thanx for the advise. But since budget is tight and im a beginner im going to go with a D40.
irieNaoki
all sifus here can advice me?
i gonna but a dslr
my budget s below rm2k
so my option only focus on 3 models
1000D,d60 and A200k @ a200w
oso better take new or used one?
im still noob in this field
need the cam coz i gonna take a photography class for 8 months(2 stage)
anyone can help me?
and if someone wanna let go their dslr can offer me
dupont
buy nikkon d90, juz launch today, rm4k can get already ^^.
irieNaoki
QUOTE(dupont @ Jun 26 2009, 03:33 PM) *
buy nikkon d90, juz launch today, rm4k can get already ^^.

are u sure it release today
coz many people used it ardy
and it out of my budget
4k
nightwatchman
for 2k, I would suggest d60.. but that depends on you, any friend using DSLR? I would be much easier to have a same brand with ur fellow photographer. easy to learn & borrow2 lense..
dupont
QUOTE(irieNaoki @ Jun 26 2009, 03:41 PM) *
are u sure it release today
coz many people used it ardy
and it out of my budget
4k


aiyak, say wrong.
the first day launching i mean is first day got stock for discounted price at 3800 for reporter.
cos my colleague goto buy also with reporter permit this morning.
irieNaoki
QUOTE(dupont @ Jun 26 2009, 08:25 PM) *
aiyak, say wrong.
the first day launching i mean is first day got stock for discounted price at 3800 for reporter.
cos my colleague goto buy also with reporter permit this morning.


owh
WhiteSurfer
just to share.....

I was in same situation like you irieN....looking for budget/entry DSLR two months ago. Tested Canon 1000D, Nikon D60 and Sony Alpha and Minolta. Then survey the secondhand market for good bargains and found one unit at Cash Converter, a Canon 1000D kit for RM1300 ( market price for new ard 2K ) with just 2300 shutter count and 8 months warranty still. Quickly grab and never looked back...next week will be buying 55-250 lens and flash

I have seen photographers with lousy looking photos taken with RM4-6k cameras and beautiful photos taken with entry DSLR.....it the person behind the camera that matters biggrin.gif

nightwatchmen advise is spot on.....it really helps if you have friends on Canon/Nikon camp since are both good brands, then can easily swap/lend accessories.
irieNaoki
QUOTE(WhiteSurfer @ Jun 26 2009, 10:02 PM) *
just to share.....

I was in same situation like you irieN....looking for budget/entry DSLR two months ago. Tested Canon 1000D, Nikon D60 and Sony Alpha and Minolta. Then survey the secondhand market for good bargains and found one unit at Cash Converter, a Canon 1000D kit for RM1300 ( market price for new ard 2K ) with just 2300 shutter count and 8 months warranty still. Quickly grab and never looked back...next week will be buying 55-250 lens and flash

I have seen photographers with lousy looking photos taken with RM4-6k cameras and beautiful photos taken with entry DSLR.....it the person behind the camera that matters biggrin.gif

nightwatchmen advise is spot on.....it really helps if you have friends on Canon/Nikon camp since are both good brands, then can easily swap/lend accessories.

nice bro
can help me?
where u grab that 1000d for rm1.3k with such low SC?
nightwatchman
try here http://www.photomalaysia.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=18..
irieNaoki
if i go to SONY is it ok?
thinking of buying a200
cheap somemore
rm16xx only
RGT788
I got Sony A200 cheap and nice to learn for beginner.. check all the photo up load by me. it is the Sony.
DarkWRC
err...
after reading for 5 pages, what brand/model you guys suggest for the beginner...?
me been using normal point and shoot for about 10 years + sometimes my dad's stone age manual pentax film slr.
d40/1000d/a200/a230...

sometimes a bit afraid also cos I've been reading/survey in Photomalaysia and Photokaki saying that if you're not familiar with dslr, the photo taken from prosumer is better...

whitey,
how's your 1000d till date?
WhiteSurfer
Dark....its a matter of camps actually Canon/Nikon/Sony or whatever else biggrin.gif

Nikon D40 tu old model oredi kot cos been replaced by D60 as base Nikon model. And I think Sony have just released some newer base models A330 or something.

As for my equipment...now sudah increase with additional Canon 55-250 mm, Canon 50mm, Nissin flash and tripod chikai biggrin.gif At end of day its still the person behind the camera thats important. Jom join the Canon camp bro.
DarkWRC
actually my father in law runs a photo shop...
if somebody happens to go to Balok, Kuantan...Foto Indah Studio is the name...

normal photo shop only...now concentrating on Digital printing...old school film still available...
he uses D60 only for the photography job...more on wedding and sometimes Indon/Bangla nak buat pass kerja...
pictures are good...person behind the camera matters rite...
the supplier for the photo paper/ink/equipments maybe can give good deal also...
I've asked him about that and he said to give it a try...maybe when I'm ready...hehehe...

have to decide which one and kumpul duit first la whitey...
sony has cheap body but exp lenses...canon has exp body but cheap lenses...is it???

love taking photos but not being photoed...biggrin.gif
unkaleong
I shoot Pentax. Shake Reduction is on the body, equating to cheaper lens. Plenty of choices on the lenses as well. Problem is not many stores stock them...Try visiting www.shashinki.com
BaSiKaL

got myself 500D from YL , Puzu Plaza last month..
very happy with it so far...
SamueltonG
me just using 1000d so far so good......................beginner ma..................... biggrin.gif biggrin.gif biggrin.gif
level27
any shop that have good after services / prices for lense in kl ?
strike961
QUOTE(level27 @ Nov 8 2009, 05:12 PM) *
any shop that have good after services / prices for lense in kl ?


try amcorp mall, J One, look for jason

he's good in Nikon
Sab
Bought myself D90 from Electronic Festival at Mid Valley today. Got tripod and shoulder bag as gift. The battery need to charge for 8 hours so got no time to play with it yet. However, i am very happy just to hold it. Need to study more how to use the camera.. hehehe.. yeahhh i am so happy! BananaMoonWalk.gif woot.gif banana.gif

davechew
how much sab?
Sab
QUOTE(davechew @ Nov 8 2009, 10:06 PM) *
how much sab?


RM4280, with Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR Lens + filter. I think it is the best price can get today. Got free gift some more.. :)
widget
QUOTE(Sab @ Nov 8 2009, 10:27 PM) *
RM4280, with Nikon AF-S DX NIKKOR 18-105mm f/3.5-5.6G ED VR Lens + filter. I think it is the best price can get today. Got free gift some more.. :)


Naper tak amik 18-200 VR lens jek? biggrin.gif
Sab
QUOTE(widget @ Nov 9 2009, 01:41 PM) *
Naper tak amik 18-200 VR lens jek? biggrin.gif


Tak mampu.. lagipun tak tahu pun yg tu ada.. hehehe
onslaught
QUOTE(Sab @ Nov 8 2009, 09:43 PM) *
Bought myself D90 from Electronic Festival at Mid Valley today. Got tripod and shoulder bag as gift. The battery need to charge for 8 hours so got no time to play with it yet. However, i am very happy just to hold it. Need to study more how to use the camera.. hehehe.. yeahhh i am so happy! BananaMoonWalk.gif woot.gif banana.gif


patut la nak gi midvalley semalam...hehehehe...nanti boleh jadi photographer untuk trip2 lgtc yg akan datang... thumbsup.gif
level27
QUOTE(strike961 @ Nov 8 2009, 05:39 PM) *
try amcorp mall, J One, look for jason

he's good in Nikon



thanks bro...but I am using canon 450 ...looking for canon lense hhee
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