i just had a drag race with the above car.

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Civic ES 2.0 - near stock, running on 17' wheels, not too sure if any mod or not TBH.

Civix FD2 - running on 17' wheels, some mod and with Pivot Throttle controller.

my LGT - some mod , running on 18' wheels, with Blitz Throttle controller

Result:

i lost to the Civic ES by half car length without on the throttle controller

i lost to CIviv ES by 1 car length with on the throttle controller

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Result:

i won by half car length with Civic FD2 on 2 rounds. without knowing if FD2 on the Pivot Throttle controller or not. but i off it for 2 rounds. didnt on it.


last round, Civic ES vs Civic FD2 , fd2 also lost abt 1 car length.


Verdict on the Blitz throtler controller, i notice it doesnt really help from stand still, but RPM shooting up like mad from 2000rpm onwards. how u felt, bro fatboy? the pulling power is unexperience before, although not really help in stand still launching.

conclusion, next time meet FD2, dont worry, just go ahead

hahahaha....ES i have some experience too with that car...personally i think the engine is better than the FD2...got some trouble to shake it off my back...while FD2...lalalala...no fuss...can always make them eat yer smoke...lalalalala...

Thanks bro for the detail.. but a bit confused here...
better to turn off the throttle controller when meet to challenge ?

from standstill lor...if on the run or running start you should turn the throttle controller on....lalalalalala...i usually on the HAC after 80km/h...then can see the speedometer dash from 80 to 140 km/h in a sec...lalalalala

sounds like you had an exciting new year sean.... :)

just curious why you didnt use the throttle controller for the FD2 run?

It's not the car, it's the driver... Sean not good dragster, hahaha :)

Sean, did you use D or the paddles when you used the Blitz? There's a difference.

WELL DONE, SEAN!!!

Score 1 for Lancer

thank you man! thank you!

1. What's the distance that you had for your drag?

2. What was the speed you reached before you have to slow down

3. Did you detach your big wing?

4. How was the 140 - 0kmhr? ahaha;)

ya, agree with you, from stand still is not much different, but 2000 above there is a huge different.espeacially when you using manual with third gear, your back will throw to the seat everytime you step on the acc

i didnt on the throller controller. coz i want a fair game. i on it with ES on 2nd round coz want to see the diff in it. and proven again, the throttler controller doesnt really help from stand still. it only help in rolling start.


then with FD2, i managed to pull him away by half car length, so no need to turn on even. for both rounds, no issue. can win.

i also didnt use paddle, coz i still find that pick up launch, D mode the fastest.

the distance ard 250-300meter, from what i can see.

for the drag with ES, i find that if longer distance, i can make a come back. but we agredd to brake right in front of the corner be it lose or win. so no chance.

However, with FD2, although i already pull him half car distance, but seems that he cant catch up. then at the corner where wwe supposed to brake, i still can hear his engine roaring, so i just whack all the way, after ard 1km distance, the gap is much bigger.

note that i dindnt detach my GT wing. i requested to take it off, but opponent rejected my request. so drag with it on.

the final speed i think, i hink only ya, ard 110kmh before e brake. (if i remmeber correctly la)

as for the 140-0 brake test, no need to test, coz before the drag, the head of caldina club tested and said dont want to test 140 - 0 liao. as he already knew the power of it. hehe!

Rev, u just wait, just wait ya. i will once again let u know, even on 18 inch wheeler, can chop u like chop carrot, hehe!

That sounds about right, Ah Sean. Our car ZTH average about 8-9sec with some mods, so can reach 100km/h at around 250meters.


Ya la, I was gonna ask who brake first in the drag... sure you brake later with your lansi VTTR, haha :)


No problem la Ah Sean, I'll be very happy if you makan my Stinger :) 17-inch vs 18-inch not much of a big difference la... under the hood is what really matters. I wait patiently for your secret project results... for me, my Stinger will remain as it is for another 11+ months :)

i forgot liao, really. i wish i got record down from my Blitz DS. aiya, too gang jiong liao then forget to turn it on.

but caldina guy recoreded down all the matches. wait for him to load in youtube and will post it here.

Congrats to you Sean...
does ES weight less than our car...?
dcspeed should know I think...

dont congrats me la. the whole intention for this drag is to break the myth of Lancer VS Civic only.

btw, i google it and found that Civic ES 2.0 produces 160hp/ 19kgm torque and weighted at 1244kg.

not only the stock horses more than LGT but also lighter by ard 120kg if compare to LGT. most importatly, non-CVT.

Thanks for the results Sean.. I can now have more confidence if meet with those damn civic.. hehehe...

aiyo, why la dont take vid or pics??

friendly match is okay la, drive safe bro. we scouted the area b4 we test the drag. drive safe.... i heard from the Civic community, 1.8 Civic sometime faster than 2.0 for FD. dont know true or not.axe, got la. just for the CCM guy posted in Youtube lo. he balik kampung sudah. gotta wait for him to come back. i wanted to take video from my phone, who knows low batt pulak. sigh...

Sean, but one of our ipoh members with stock lancer try with a FD2 before on top speed, lose lah..... though i havent got the chance to try top speed with them... but this is from his experience, which is at the KLIA highway.... as for myself i've tried with FD2 till gear 3, lancer won but forgot the length de...
so any bros here tried with a FD2 on highspeed before???
high speed means starting from 160km/h and above...

i got no chance to go beyond that on that stretch. i also believe Mivec no match to Vtec, same like u.

hopefully got chance next time gua.

Actually, I think the problem is not on 4B11... 4B11's 155hp@6000 & 199Nm@4250 power comes earlier than K20's 155hp@6500 & 188Nm@4500... and it shows in Lancer's victory in drag race

As pointed out before, speed is function of hp and weight,
Since 4B11 and K20 have same top 155hp => meaning Lancer's lower top speed can be bcoz of higher weight/drag or lower hp on wheel:

- We know our CVT eats about 25% hp (115~120hp on wheel)... Civic 5-speed auto may be more efficient than our CVT. Does any1 got Civic's wheel hp number???

- Civic (Cd at 0.29) is aero sleeker than Lancer (Cd is likely 0.30+). GLS w/o spoiler proves the spoiler eats about 10~15km/h.

- Lancer (curb weight at 1,385) is heavier than Civic (curb weight at 1,315)

The problem not with our Lancer or its engine la... it's the lousy dragster SC999, never tekan 100%, only 95%... hahaha :)

haha, the main issue is my weight la. now at 85kg liao, whilts the other 2 guys probably at 65 only. hehe!

CVT is a trade off, while not giving the best whp, it gives better wNm than any other car with less % loss and of course jerk free compared to the AT of the other car. (as far as drag is concerned)

the ES is a lighter car than the FD2, thinner donuts and this helps....but of course, SC999's car is already light but he's fat!!!

as for the controller, I have not installed since I know its no good for drag, more for when the car is in motion....

For 0-100kmh, stock Lancer, 150meters, I'm currently doing it around 120 meters by the time I reach 100kmh...., (100 meters @ 95kmh)

250meters is good for around 130kmh....

I wonder if I drive SC999 car, can I beat civics? I am just 52kg. Kereta org, sure I tekan 100% nyer. hehe..

Sean,
you still win what...?
that's why I congratulate you...
and you have proven that Lancer can win FD2 on traffic light...
ok what...

ya la.. Lupa nak bgtau.. "Congratulation Sean" for smoked FD2

so the ist thing i need to do is to reduce weight! haha!

but seriosuly, Civic ES although quite stock but very light weighted.

i also dont know how long it is the distance we tried. just wait patiently for the video ba.

Hey bro,

The Gary from 8GCC was there during your drag race? Looks like you make good friend there...ahaha. I just dropped by to say hi to them as well.

Weight...damn killer. Now i know another reason why i can't get 210 like last time. Spoiler is one thing. I have gained from 65kg to 72kg over past few months...damn.

Gary my fren in 8GCC, he has been eyeing my GT Wing and RE30 for long. everytime i meet up with him, he sure will ask me to sell to him. he got a nice FD2R, damn fast! already on Hondata ECU. oh ya, he wasnt there with us.

wish i got that kind of $$ to buy a FD2R!

Wah, i thought the car is heavy, the drivers are even heavier...

You talk c*ck la, Sean... you don't have money to buy FD2R, who has money?

Bro..start doing more ward-rounds la then your weight will drop hehehe

of course the almighty reverend or dont know what Hendrix la!

me just a young punk, (31 year old consider young right? )

FD2R, rm199,800.00 leh, no way la!

31 also old already... hehe... By that age, u should can buy FD2R.
Footballer pun time umur 31 dah nak retired da..

20's mcm ktorg nie baru la dikatakan young...

then i die liao la, 31 can only afford LGT, sigh....

work harder!

Don't worry bro, u're not the only one to get one at that age. Look at the bright side, at least u don't need to shed off 105kg like i do .... Even more hardwork required from my side before trying to drag with any one of you guys here.....

our lancer cannot reach 100% performance...
anyway...
congrate to sean..
i think i wanna try too..

I see. Sell la. Sometimes we need some top speed. Economy damn bad now. Can afford FD2R also...if must tie our stomach or cut our sleeve might as well don't buy. Lancer lancer la. Not too bad after all...though may not be the best.Time will come. When the economy turns better in few years time...then its the time you sell off all your blue chips and..hehe...RM200k is ok ok la. Perhaps...eye higher at the STi?And if i didn't forget..you have kids to take k of right? Haha. One kid is like 1+ Million nowadays. Simple maths but difficult answer ;)Yo bro...no more ward round for me now...no calls no rounds. No wonder growing like tumour. Damn...nowadays still can't concentrate for my potential part 1 on May. How to lose weight? Ahaha;) Any secret weapon you have there?Jaz,Awaiting your victory. Drive carefully. haha;)

Wa now need to get one of those throttle controller odi...how much would it cost abang?hehe

I thought Bruce and Evan is almighty...?

YES!!

we should post this thread to 8th gen civic club, man.. they even claim that one of thier fd1(!) beat our white lancer!

i don't know is it either whitesurfer or not,.. but i know it's not true at all..

our biggest rival,.. anytime met them always led to street race.

That would be childish, posting such a thread. We're better than that, at least I think I am...

Remember : Sean did this for fun and it's a friendly thing. Don't do anything foolish that can potentially damage this club's name.

Whether can beat lancer or not, 8GCC already know. Stock vs. Stock, 8GCC knows who would win already.

haha, quite excited with sean's thread....

they're the one who always laughing at us..

ye la shark...
just keep it to ourself la...
when met the challenge, then we know...

ya guys, i did it in a very friendly mood and environtment. not to say win or lose.

bro Shark, i know how u felt, dont worry, like rev said, its the driver.

sekali someone posted this in Team ES club leh? then i made LGT malu liao la.

Not sure which white lancer they r talking about, i saw a white lancer with no. plate a** , so i'm sure there's a few more whities outside our club...

My buddy madsurgeon (white Lancer) beat 8GCC's "Black Puma" in an impromptu drag along Penchala Link. Go check at 8GCC what is "Black Puma". I know the owner. High-ish HP, highly modded (with "branded mods"... Sean, your lansi type :) joking only... owner very friendly guy), mentioned in this forum before. That car modded to go on track, heavy and will lose in short drag. In a longer drag, that Black Puma will smoke my buddy's stock Lancer.

That's why don't simply say things at other forum until you know the mod priority/direction of other cars (including FDs).

i not lansi la, just that i trusted in branded stuffs mah. coz i dont want to have nightmare in mod. and countless of retune, re-pasang, re-whatever.

since when u hear that i got complaint in my mod one? i prefer to kau tim everything in one shot. thats why i okay to pay higher premium for it.

in any case, video should be ready by tomo. hopefully i got time topost it in.

Tiu, I said I was joking la, Sean. Your mods all Business Class (not First Class ah... First Class means Endless and Ohlins, haha), my mods all Petaling Street class, haha :)