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wans81
Dear Bro LGTC ians,

I'm thinking of buying either PS3 or XBOX 360

For gamers out there, need your precious information which one is better in terms of EVERYTHING? hehe

terion
depends on what u want to do.... if ur a real serious hardcore gamer then get the xbox360...

but if ur not so hardcore and want to watch blu ray movies, then ps3 is ur choice
SC999
i posted below in another thread, cut n paste here >>>>>>


i got all 3 new gen of console, my verdict,

Xbox 360 - most practical to play with but once modded, no more online but u can play 'ahem' game with cheap price.

Ps3 - wow factor fastest BD pick up lens among all BD player. hate the most on constant firmware update. and game graphic no better than xbox360. but audio part sure win over xbox360.

Wii - fun when play more than 1 person. if u lone ranger, Wii is a redundant product. must play in group.
terion
the PS3 update may be constant but it also increases the features on ur PS3... its like getting free updates for ur OS
SC999
true also :)

and its now support PSM. haha!

but really take too long to update la.. probably my network too slow, that's it. haha.

but my PS3 still a BD player... use it for SF4 online nia. anyone playing SF4 la? d*mn sianz playing with daniel, he no fight la.
terion
sean, thats y i download the updates from office in to my thumbdrive, then just plug it in and ask it to updated from storage media... much faster that way...
Economist
QUOTE(SC999 @ Jun 2 2009, 10:53 AM) *
true also :)

and its now support PSM. haha!

but really take too long to update la.. probably my network too slow, that's it. haha.

but my PS3 still a BD player... use it for SF4 online nia. anyone playing SF4 la? d*mn sianz playing with daniel, he no fight la.


i wish i had then i can challenge you......i think i can match u kua heheheh.....if not my secondary skool days of hanging in arcade all wasted liao
terion
then faster buy la.. what u waiting for? cheaper LCD tv? run.gif
wans81
what about in terms of

1. games and parts avalaibility
2. cost
3. which shop selling reasonable price
4. have variuos model?

Thanks bros
SC999
haha, econ hard to say.

u know what, during SF II days, there is a tournamnet in my hometown and the grand prize is a brand new Super Famicon.

guess what, later the organizer cancelled the event, as the other particiapnts know that i participating, all of them withdrawn, exaggerate right? haha!

reason being, i got Super Famicom that time which only the very few has it. i can train myself at home, haha.


oh ya, another disadvantage of PS3, graphic cannot fight with Xbox360 most of the time, but not all.

wans81
what about in terms of

1. games and parts avalaibility
2. cost
3. which shop selling reasonable price
4. have variuos model?

Thanks bros
terion
1. games wise xbox360 has much more but ps3 is catching up slowly. parts wise both are quite available in the market

2. cost is about the same for both... although for ps3, the asian version is slightly cheaper then the malaysian version but the malaysian version has 80GB of storage compared to 40GB of the asian version.

3. this one u have to scout around a bit... look around here and see: http://forum.lowyat.net/Games

4. for ps3 answered in no.2 for xbox i only know got the normal 360 and another the elite which is black in colour... need sc999 to answer this..
SC999
Xbox now got 20Gb, 40GB, 60GB and 120GB. and another variant XBOX360 Arcade with no HDD in box.

also, if decided on Xbox360, source for Jasper set. it reduces the chance of RROD. the old falcon set will have RROD after massive usage. i myself claim 3 times from M$ for RROD.

terion
eh, so the arcade version can direclty play or need to install hdd first b4 can play?
SC999
the arcade version play as like normal xbox lo. just that u cant save. but u can opt to buy a 64mb memore card which absoultely not enuf space one.
terion
wah lau... like that also can... so i bet the arcade version is the cheapest xbox out there la?
SC999
yap, cheapest , ard S$369 if i not wrong. but whats the point then? no HDD, how to save game? and the 64mb memory card not cheap either.
wans81
1. Xbox360 not advise to play for long hours, may hang ..any comment?

2. In terms of graphics, which one? heard PS3 have more experience and high technology..

3. For long term, which one can stand longer in the market?
SC999
if u buy Jasper set of Xbox 360 , no prob on playing for long hours.

PS3 on CELL main chip, complicated and high tech but not practical. and already proven graphic not better than Xb360. take LOTR: Conquest for example. PS3 version only at 720P whilst Xb360 version at 1080P.

Xb360 probbaly will phase out sooner than PS3. as it released more than 1 yr earlier than PS3. and PS3 CELL tech are supposed to across till PS6 according to Sony.
terion
1. thats y sean ask to get the Jesper version.. not so hot i think

2. i think this one really depends on the games.. some games optimize for ps3 some for xbox

3. stand longer.. hmm.. hard to say la... best selling now is definately wii, 2nd is xbox, 3rd is ps3. but if u look the other way around, xbox came out first, then wii then only ps3.. so means ps3 is the newest in the market... depends on how u look at it la
Economist
wonder if PS3 didnt haf blu ray would sales be even much lower?
SC999
if PS3 no BD, then can play ahem games mah, then sould sell better in terms of outside of Jap n US la.
terion
dun really know as if no blu ray, they would have launched it much earlier and the price would have been much much cheaper... even the games could have been cheaper...
ob1ivion
Problem with a modded XBOX is that your warranty is VOID, instantly. And, if the infamous RROD pays you a visit, you'll can't get it fixed or replaced for free...

The PS3 will undoubtedly have a longer lifespan - games-wise. Graphically, games can and will only get better. I truly believe that we're just scratching the surface of what's possible with the PS3.

However, new PS3 games are rather expensive. But you can buy/find 2nd hand games at a more affordable price on the lowyat.net forum. Alternatively, you can go to sites like Amazon UK or US to buy them. They go on offer quite a fair bit.

My choice? A PS3, for sure! Bought it a year ago, and i think it's one of the best thing i've ever bought! Heck, even some handphones cost more than a PS3 these days.
Economist
QUOTE(ob1ivion @ Jun 2 2009, 12:19 PM) *
Heck, even some handphones cost more than a PS3 these days.


totally agree with this statement thumbsup.gif

wah the PS3 poison is getting stronger!
onslaught
PS3 period...lalalala
SC999
there is a way to claim for RROD ahen Xbox la.
ob1ivion
QUOTE(SC999 @ Jun 2 2009, 02:44 PM) *
there is a way to claim for RROD ahen Xbox la.


Even when it's been modded to play pirated games? Microsoft claim can meh, bro?
SC999
i better dont talk much in public forum. pm me.
wans81
after observation and comments from from u guys,

right now

i'm 55% for xbox360 45% for PS3..still pusing2..

xbox360 advantages:
1. cheap games, lots games in market, for modded can also play 'ehemm' games
2. better offer
3. better graphic quality

PS3 advantages:
1. latest technology
2. blu ray
3. stylish

For gamers otai there, if ok need your experience/idea to continue list down above list

thanks for support guys..... thanks.gif
ob1ivion
Hey bro.

I'd suggest that you take a look at the games available out there, or even the ones that will be released in the future. If gaming is your only concern, then why not make your decision to buy a console based on that?

For me, I'd still get the PS3. I'm not particularly pleased about the XBOX's RROD cases. Just do a quick google search on RROD and you'll see what I mean.

Some great PS3 games will be out next year. Off the top of my head, these are the ones i'm really looking forward to play:

i) God of War 3
ii) Gran Turismo 5
iii) Final Fantasy XIII
iv) Castlevania: Lords of Shadows
v) Unchartered 2
vi) Bayonetta
vii) Dante's Inferno
viii) Darksiders

Check out the vids at www.gametrailers.com. You'll be impressed. biggrin.gif

Btw, i don't think that the XBOX has the edge over the PS3 in terms of graphics. If any, it's very little. And also, it depends on the developers of the games. For example, Final Fantasy. I doubt you can find an existing XBOX RPG that will beat FFXIII when it is out.

Happy console hunting, bro. And, if you really can't make your decision, why not buy both? biggrin.gif
SC999
nope, take LOTR: Conquest to compare and u will know. Take Resident Evil 5 to compare u will know. both Xbox 360 on 1080P whilst PS3 on 720P.
terion
on the graphics quality i think it depends on which platform was the game developed for then ported over for the other...

sean, for both the ps3 games does it say 1080p supported at the back of the box?
Economist
QUOTE(terion @ Jun 4 2009, 04:44 PM) *
on the graphics quality i think it depends on which platform was the game developed for then ported over for the other...


take a level playing field? maybe like FIFA 2009?
SC999
QUOTE(terion @ Jun 4 2009, 04:44 PM) *
on the graphics quality i think it depends on which platform was the game developed for then ported over for the other...

sean, for both the ps3 games does it say 1080p supported at the back of the box?

nope. for PS3 stated 720P, for Xbox stated 1080P.

and the diff in terms of graphic. heaven N h*ll la.

thats why i concluded generally, XBox graphic if not on par or better than PS3.

but then in terms of Audio, PS3 win for sure.
terion
ic... so memang no 1080p resolution for them... i wonder y...

cause a lot of PSN games are native 1080p.. maybe the graphics too complex for ps3 to handle so they have to reduce the resolution?...lol
SC999
coz under PS3 network, to handle all in 1080P, a bit overload for them. whereas Xbox live already matured , no problem to handle.

EA admitted on above.
terion
but thats just the graphics end... on the network side its just information/data on scores/synchronizing stuff only.. how can the resolution that ur using matter?

imagine im using 640x480 to play CS on my PC, then u are playing on 1920x1080 resolution, it doesnt matter what connection we got (dial up/broadband) we still can play online mah... it should have nothing to do with the resolution... the resolution is only depends on ur hardware (graphics card/monitors/graphic ram).. not the servers...
SC999
i also not too sure. theoritically true, but thats wat EA said. probably i cut the statement too short then got misintepretation la. but generally thats what EA said wo.

see i can dig that statement out or not.

or some hardware fact which we unaware?
terion
i found the answer already:

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/02/ea-still-challe/

QUOTE
EA Still Challenged By PS3 Game Development

EA’s CEO John Riccitiello admits that his company is still having trouble developing the PS3 versions of its multiplatform titles.

During a conference call to announce EA’s financial earnings, Riccitiello said, "[I]n circumstances where we either led on the Xbox 360 or ran parallel production, for the most part, we’re still experiencing some delay on the PS3. It’s a little bit more of a challenging development environment for us."

The problem has improved recently, but Riccitiello said that the team still has some "catching up to do on the engineering side for the PS3."

Riccitiello added that EA has had "no issue at all" with games for which the PS3 was the lead platform, such as Burnout.


so what i said was true... if they parallel develop the games for multiplatform then ps3 version will suck... if they develop the game just for PS3 its fine...

so means EA sucks at developing ps3 games unless its ONLY for PS3... rolf.gif
Economist
QUOTE(terion @ Jun 4 2009, 05:13 PM) *
i found the answer already:

http://www.wired.com/gamelife/2008/02/ea-still-challe/
so what i said was true... if they parallel develop the games for multiplatform then ps3 version will suck... if they develop the game just for PS3 its fine...

so means EA sucks at developing ps3 games unless its ONLY for PS3... rolf.gif


maybe ps3 codes harder to crack......
terion
not harder to crack... just harder for them to convert their codes from xbox/PC to run on ps3 codes...

if they develop from ground up on the ps3, its fine... eg burnout..
Economist
QUOTE(terion @ Jun 4 2009, 05:19 PM) *
not harder to crack... just harder for them to convert their codes from xbox/PC to run on ps3 codes...

if they develop from ground up on the ps3, its fine... eg burnout..


thats wat i mean by crack la...crack,decipher, read, write...if dont crack or decipher how to convert fr other codes to ps3 codes......

anyway i thought ps3 msia edition is 1500 wif 1 game? now its like 1570 gameless.....sweat.gif
terion
QUOTE(Economist @ Jun 4 2009, 05:24 PM) *
thats wat i mean by crack la...crack,decipher, read, write...if dont crack or decipher how to convert fr other codes to ps3 codes......

anyway i thought ps3 msia edition is 1500 wif 1 game? now its like 1570 gameless.....sweat.gif


maybe that time was for launch promotion?
Economist
QUOTE(terion @ Jun 4 2009, 05:27 PM) *
maybe that time was for launch promotion?


LOL...should haf just line up with my fren last time hahahah......
dcspeed
if want Lansi... PS3 is the one...

with modded xbox360 and wii consoles, you will happy with its cheaper game titles... PS3 is only for true hardcore and serious gamer... i think PS3 graphics is the cunest among the 3 consoles ... somemore with its Bluray player function, I guess now already upgraded to firmware 1.30 already (terion, can confirm on this?) I remember the time I bought my PS3 the bluray is at firmware 1.10 only...

i must rematch with stupid sean again on SF4 with my video recording ON, than upload to youtube and to you all... haha... I want rematch, Sean!!! haha.....
terion
dcspeed.. now update already 2.76 already la... 1.3 long time already loe...

sf4 discussion moved here: http://forum.lancerzone.com/index.php?showtopic=5656
ZeN
PS3!
SC999
i just wonder how come Zen diam diam jer. haha, here he come!
Economist
QUOTE(ZeN @ Jun 5 2009, 02:45 PM) *
PS3!


QUOTE(SC999 @ Jun 5 2009, 02:46 PM) *
i just wonder how come Zen diam diam jer. haha, here he come!


bugger ppl line up 2 days to get ps3 msia edition wor..u say le? hahahah....my fren semangat go line up also number 20++ only hahaha

bro, how are you? havent seen u in an eternity liao!
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