rev, dun kacau, deric just doing his job...

imagine if another member go and fix this and when he post the photo of it here, someone reply that... how u think that member gonna feel?

its gonna be the same 2008 tantart incident all over again... so guys pls be more discreet when giving comments.

Er... waht was the 2008 tantart incident leh? I dunno la...

Anyway, it has been said many times and by quite a few individuals in this forum... It's your money, why you care what others think?

GuyM did nothing wrong except for being very honest. We should have more of that here.

and here we go again...

Nothing will be going again.

If I bought something that some members think look like shite, I welcome their honest opinion. Rather than "Wah chun la", "wah very nice la" artificial shite.

OK, OT already... go start a topic on this if you want, Ter

Bump for Lobet (I was there today btw to install twin stripes).

LancerInspired,

Its my personal opinion and i concluded it with "An acquired taste" la. Things that i like, not necessarily other ppl may like and its vice versa. There's another thread started by Robert on LED, which i've indicated my interest but i'm sure among the several hundred members here, some may not like it too although they may not have voiced out.

Chill, relax, lancheng te........

u the one that started this, n yet u ask me to open a thread?

Guym, we appreciate anyone who gives their honest opinion (well except for rev la...lol).

Its just the way its being expressed that is of concern.

GuyM expressed it correctly. Read his entire first post (and I believe it is original i.e. he didn't edit it).

We're not talking about a member's gf or wife here... that one really must be discreet or even just STFU. This is about a machine, a car.

ur forgetting that some members treat their car as wifes/gfs...

anyway doesnt matter what U think of the issue, it matters what the moderators think.

OK, I admit I forgot (since I can't imagine it), although I think they need to get out more TBH. Sorry so honest again.

Last OT post here.

I just posted another unhelpful comment in the other thread... please do the cut-and-paste.

hehe...peace everyone...

somehow I trust Deric's concern and comments. Moral of story ( to me la at least )......not everything need to be said.

The thing is that if ONE person thinks it is awful why then does Deric think it is appropriate for him to mod or be Daddy?

If nobody went for that LED rear lights after GuyM's comments, what is it to Lelic or LGTC? Huh?

Like I said, we're adults here.

Everyone deserves a chance to post honest opinions. Nobody owes anyone anything here.

agree with Whitesurfer..

all of us already grown up well educated..still need to teach do and dont ?
although it honest opinion, still need to consider if helping or hurting

Different folks,different strokes.......

Dearest Moderators,

Kindly cut & past my comment from the concerned thread into here so as not to discourage other from considering the potential purchase or biz opportunity to merchant concerned.

i do agree with what Terence said le...although what Rev said also has partial truth... but in the end... .. do we want to comment or critize s'thin that we dont like... if we dont like it...just pass on a simple comment like "not my cup of tea" ...if not... "not the type of mod i'm lookin for"...

just a thought... the comments tht we give ...s'times can alter a person's view on the mod... too many negatives can also cause partners to lose potential sales...

Agreed, precisely what I said.

GuyM's comments can stand, no need for any mod to jump in and say "please keep your honest opinion to yourself", which is preciasely what Deric and Ter are saying should be the case.


If it helps someone, it can hurt others... vice versa... amacam, agree?

Public Forum. Adults. Machine. Not Human.

Please continue to say how lousy my rims are, how lousy my brake calipers are, how lousy other things in my car are. I'll still be here and I'll laugh about it.

Coz I will buy what I want for my car and I will still treat people here as PEOPLE regardless of what they may say about my car.

Hopeless la... so few understand me. Last post in this thread for me.

Its not a matter of adults or honest opinion here la. I am sure a lot of members have seen the picture, and sure as heck a lot of them do not like the design...me included. But the thing is....do we need to pass the negative comment or just keep it to oneself. The better judgement would be to just keep quiet......and you do not need to be an adult to know that.

LancerInspired has politely "questioned" the rationale, but you keep on pushing the issue. Sometime it is wiser to admit you are wrong....for once.

Gee, missed the show again!!!! What la you all!!!

Anyway, didn't want to comment earlier...but I agree that we have to be honest la, its just a POV la....wont die wan lah....

some merchants welcome it, some don't, and if they don't, then they will lose biz...

if whitey didn't comment about a cheaper EvoX rear spoiler, robert wouldn't know that a cheaper source exist (of course he cannot milk us, but he can milk the ignorant)... win win for him and for us.....

at the same time, we cannot wait for merchants/partners to milk us....especially in the other thread that GuyM posted on the rim...for me, that partner has been chopping heads for a long time (altho his balancing/alignment is cheaper) but the rest are not...

Oops, here I go posting again :)

I am NOT wrong. And Deric wasn't polite, he was kinda authoritative IMHO, no need for him to use the words he used.

The crux of the matter is how damaging was GuyM's comments, to be deserving of a retort from a LGTC mod? Eh? How damaging is it, really??

There wasn't a single post in that thread that had a good thing to say about the rear lights. For folks that are considering buying the rear lights, the negative comments may help him decide... rather than everyone keeping quiet and then someone go buy it and keep on believing he bought some great looking rear lights when the majorityy doesn't think so. Which would be MORE HELPFUL? (since this seems to be the case we're talking about i.e. being helpful).

Haiz...

OK lah...I'm wrong to butt in....enjoy yourself adults.

honest and negative opinion helpful if you tactfully phrase it..

Wondering why we can professionally comment on our colleague/sub-ordinate at work, but unprofessionally comment in forum



To be fair, we need to stop to negatively comment on his rims, calipers... Rev also have feeling.
( no offense intended)

LOL, haha, I don't care la what you guys say about anything about my car... proof is I'm still hanging around here after 15 months :) TBH, if you guys stopped joking about my car, I'd miss it :P :)

I know what's really/more important.

As for "professionalism" in this forum... what professionalism? It's a public forum, not work :)

AF12 kena big time from 8GCC ady...at that time, Jack didn't even wish us Gong Xi Fa Cai....IIRC, Reverend did it on his behalf....

He was pre-occupied with this....

http://eightgc2.forumup.com/about5699-eightgc2.html

DEFINATELY FIREWORKS! POV posted in our threads here are very polite......

ohoho....luckily my comments din come out on terion's post....

Err.. i'm lost..

Anyway.. "I pass. like ah-beng mods" with wasnt meant to be a negative comment in the first place. I dont look down on "ah-beng" nor other type of mods. Its just a personal preference. In fact, I have ah-beng friends and respect what they can do nonetheless, maybe I should have keep it to myself since its a public forum (even worst in robert promo thread) and might offend other people that would perceive it differently although I do stand on my opinion and my good conscience. I guess we're are not that open here as where I come from. But in this case, I apologize.

"goyang goyang goyang kepala goyang.."

cheers

p/s: btw, robert have nice new bumper coming soon.

Bravo bro.....it takes a bigger man to admit and back up a bit and take a look at the bigger picture. As for my objection, its not about protecting Rainbow's sales...its about feelings of members here who might have installed the lights.

My last piece.

btw....do you believe the real Sig is Schu ?

are we really that sensitive?

Before i post this question, i think 3 times, whether to post or not, whether to dirty my hand or not.

I think my fellow lancerian can accept this question.

Kesian those who posted something but their comment ended up here. Very difficult to tell if a statement is helpful or not. For instance, i may want to put twin stripe after i see Rev put it up. Then ppl commented that the stripes look ah beng coz ciplak from Ford Mustang GT. That would probably stop me from proceeding. But if i really like it, somehow i will still put it regardless what ppl say. Correct ah?

Totally agree wif wat u r trying to convey my bro....
Exactly wat i had in mind...

For instance....

u go to a condom shop...wana buy a condom....
wat u think when u see a ribbed condom wif strawberry flavour?
d conservative ones will say....eeeeeyaaaaaksssss, who in d world wana use these???
d so-so (half open-minded half closed) will say...hmmmm..when i feel horny one of these days i'll try them out....
d bold n daring ones will say...ohhhh yeahh....!!!

In short 'beauty is in d eye of d beholder'
in d process of expressing one's feelings it's oways important to consider d feeling/emotion of others as well.....
rude and polite is on a thin line actually......

wah suddenly so serious i myself cant stand it..........

WhiteSurfer,
Nope. its tele gimmick! Schuey is too cocky to be the Stig! plus, do u think they gonna use 'zee jermans'...hahaha

strike961,
why stopping.. why would we live our life on other people expectations?

p/s: I like that stripes. Keep telling to myself should have black gt and have matte black stripes!


stiggy

Of course won't stop lah (if its because of ppl's comment, give example only ma ;). I have thought about pasang the thing for awhile. Its just that the price is not right. On top of that, i think my stock muffler not ngam with the stripe la. Anyway, i am still waiting for Rev to tell me/show the photos. Can't wait to see for real!!

So, are you going to do the stripes? Want to do together? I want to do white, sure ah beng look ahaha!

OT..OT...

Nahh.. I booked black GT but end up driving red liow. So, red is so not right with stripes for me. Btw, its RM400 at toms and I think its ok. But you got to do a really wide stripes, else it would look odd on the big lancers..

cheers!

*my last comment in the thread.

its not an issue about being sensitive, or wrong or right, or POV.

The moderation team had agreed to address this issue as it was starting to become apparent in a few threads - not just one or by a single member. If anyone was singled out it was unintentional. Also you guys tend to be quite a playful bunch - sometimes we need to get the point across.

if the one thing that this thread did is to create some awareness of impact of people's comments then good.

how the h*ll could you come out with this kind of example.. .. vely creative lo... i totally agree with you bro..

Oh wait, I have a sharkfin non-antenna... very Ah Beng!

I remember not long ago you tell everyone seriously whoever call you Grumpy old fart, ah beng, Sorhai is not your friend. Always conflicting.

"We're adults here" - but a lot of times many dont act like adults lor. I think many will agree with me.

Tiu, I was joking la with that thread, mar kai. Dunno me ah?!?

Like someone said,

"Malaysians cannot take it".

aiya , i made my Lancer GT until like sorhai, do i care if anyone say i wasted $$ or so.

i happy, u blow me?

I let the gurls blow you...LOL

mari mari mari! waiting eagerly....

some ppl like honest comment, some like being flattered........it's about personal/individual......IMO, insincere comment is meaningless and not applicable to me, I'd appreciate honest comment...... Yes, some time truth is hurtful but may somehow help one becomes a better man or improvement.

LOL... this will make a nice signature! A happy sohai asking for someone to blow him... ahahahaha, LOL...

lai lai lai, blow blow blow...

above 2 post (incl this) were unhelpful comments, haha

Ok champion la, everyone "lancheng chor" & "hwa hee liao"

pls stick to topic, the next person who OT will get 3 days cuti...

anyway back to the point again, as i was saying, its ok to give ur honest opinion, good or bad. but I think since this is a public forum, HOW u say it matters the most.

ya sure we can taruk rev's lancer like nobody's business, thats cause his preception towards this is clear... he already knows or couldnt care less what anyone says about it.

but its could be a different story with others or especially new members who might not take it lightly or misintereptret the statement.

I know Merchants/Partners should take negative criticism positively but try going to the shop and saying what was post here exactly directly in his face? Just because we dun interact face to face doesnt mean we can ignore the discretion of how we make our statements.

me want to talk some coock here...

agreed with what Terion said. the seniors or the gungho type need to give some space for the new member to feel at home and to be with the club....

err excluding the case of a new member taruh in "hair thread" and kena kawkaw then disapeared.

Okok, give chan to newbies here, ok understood, hehe :P :)

BTW, Ter... the black stickers on your bonnet very sucky looking la, kekeke...

this is my opinion..

sincerity is welcome.. but if the comments are not well accepted by the other member.. and caused tension in the forum. and later may cause the member to disappear from the club n the forum (dont attend TT and actvities etc..) , MOD and the club will take the appropriate actions to control the situation.

we are still human...personally i dont wish to see fellow members hate each other bcoz of one sincere comments....

the rule is simple..have some respect towards each other.. regardless income, preferences etc..

it is just your choice of words when u post..

Ryan..i think u are referring to gelygelemen.. he is still around.. cant see him much in the forum but still around..

ditto to ur "fake" shark fin too...