Econs, turning blind eye to lousy team performance smoothens the pain for some fans... My POINT is: There are a lot of part time footie fans around the globe, when their club doin well, they cheer, if lose go into hiding.. DEFINATELY, didn't go through thin and thick with footie teams loh.. This one called die hard fan ah?

But WORSE, some ignorant footie fans who don't know the facts and history of the competition and only blindly thinking his/her club is the best in the universe and other clubs are crap.. And some of them even try to distort facts and history.. This one is laughing stock..

think there are guilty parties on both side for this........am sure you and i never do that.........

oi still no ppl can tell me y pool so poor?

diverpoor

Just to make it clear, I'm talking about general footie fans around the globe not forum specific.. hehehe..

Oi ET, If you're asking about LFC club financials, I've already replied this before.. Check earlier V1 footie thread la.. aiyo..

oi yankee management is the answer la...lol...but wait...man utd also yankee right? hmmm...it seems our yankee is doing ok...

oh
i tot u like to tell history....

Hmm Bro EVM, quite a lot of stuff you got there.. Mine:-

1) Official club jerseys: I've 4 ori jerseys from UK and the 1 lastest away ori jersey (black and gold) from Al Ikhsan (considered local loh).
2) Official club T-Shirts: I've 3 T-Shirts including the "limited edition" 2005 UCL Champion League results (polo T).
3) LFC Malaysia supporters club T-shirts: I think I've more than 8 due to my yearly membership renewal..
4) Official LFC merchandise: Scarf, Cap, Car assescories (Car carpets, Dice, stickers, air refreshner), key chains, plaques, posters, pen, cufflinks, wall clock, passport holder, flag, posters and some VCD and DVDs.

Of course being a Malaysian, I also have some replica stuffs like T-Shirts and posters la.. hahaha..

oi jusoh tu kalau pg man u memang power la man u... aku jamin.... tp main buruk la.... rugi la korang...

Latest News :

Spurs wants a replay against Wigan because they claim it was handball by Scharner, thus the goal shouldn't count. It should have been 9-0 !!!


and dont worry Elvin, except for possibly Ettan's jersey ( which he claim he bought from OT ??? ) I'm very sure all MU fans here buys fakes....hehehehe....cabbbuttt

FA should allowed this...so this time defoe can score 10 goals...good for FF points...lol...

Wei Unker!
U think Ultraman so cheapskate meh?

I dun buy fake OK? Unlike u who buy fake blue pills....... cabutttts!

yup mine was fake...lol...wearing it for 6 years ady...still can fit...wat an achievement for me...umbro is the way to go...nike jersey sucks...i buy one and wear it for a year ady tear here and there...

oi unker... u din c the pic i take at OT ka?
if u really wanna c..the GOLDEN FAPL badges... got hologram effect...ahah!!
something u duno rite?

Weii Widget....dont bluff la...I know you always go Petaling Street and buys lotsa MU jersey to sell back in SG....make a killing and go enjoy Geylang....hahahahahaha

Those who buys " replica " are smart buyers.....RM28 vs RM239. Do the maths la all those who preach buying ori this and ori that. Well done Ons for having the guts to own up.....me also buy replica only

Ok ET, since my meeting just finish and you wanna hear an old man tell you some LFC history... here you are...

My personal reasons/views why we are so poor financialy..
1) Stadium capacity: We have the smallest stadium amongst the so call big 4. Our capacity is less than 45k.. how to generate
enough matchday tickets? All the other big 4 have minimum 60k and above capacity.. You do the maths.. minimum ticket value 50pounds x
20k seats = 1m pound extra per match day. Have to wait another 2 more years (2011) for this new stadium to be ready, I hope this time it's for real..

2) Marketing : We use to have lousy marketing dept.. not enough pulicity, merchandise sold to generate funds as compared to
the other big 4's marketeers.. We depended on the older generation fans and did not generate new fans globally.. Complacency just like the
case of Carlsberg vs GAB in Malaysia (For those who are in FMCG industry and know about the market share/distribution..)

3) Sponsorship recruitment team: we had lousy sponsorship value with our shirt sponsors for more than a decade with carlsberg
that paid us peanuts.. Some stupid decision to go to Reebok and now back to Adidas again.. IIRC.. at least we're getting 20m per season
from Std Chart.. That's an increase of 285% per season from 2010/11 onwards.. Now, we have increased our funds..

4) Stupid Yankee owners: in 2006/7, The greedy yankee mustards took over the club from David Moores for about 220m pounds
and immediately took huge loans and in term, cause the club to be seriously in debt.. Imagine an interest rate of more than 30M p/year..
Which club wouldn't bleed internally.. These yankee mustard owners bought the club to make huge profits and not interest.. Imagine they
wanted to sell off the club for 500m? I mean WTF? Greedy mustards.. Even the two stupid yankees Gillet and Hicks patnership fell apart and
cause the club into further bickering..At least the Malcom family MU yankee owners don't interfere with the club's administration..

5) Transfer Funds: The useless yankee owners always promised funds.. It never really came as requested.. Whatever little funds
that came.. rafa did squander some of them away.. (I hate to admit it but our gaffer really made lot's of blunder signings.. even our youth
squad scout is lousy..) A lot of those purchases are duds.. Only a few signings were gem like Torres, Reina, Benayoun, Kuyt, Alonso,
Maschereno and etc.. So, some money lost here.. Sigh..

but as the GREATEST english club..how come all also fakap 1?

My fellow kop, whitey... It's indeed up to individual preference to whether buy ori jersey or etc or misc replica club stuff.. As I mentioned earlier, being Malaysians, I too have 2 or 3 replicas T-shirts.. hehehe...

I just got tired of some "serious" footie fans that keep on asking whether a fellow kop's jersey are ori or not? So, I wanted to see whether some fans walk what they talk/preach.... I hope this discussion would end the questions on whether you're a die hard supporter whether you have ori jerseys or replica jerseys..

My post is not about comparing the amount of money spend on club stuff whether ori or replica.. I'm sure there are more crazier fans out there who spend many times more.. It is individual preference! I hope my point is understood..

Ps: No "PUN" or personal attack is directed to anyone! Peace..

No worries la DK....here all talk for fun only....shoot here and there is normal. Thats what makes this thread the hottest ever in this forum.

Yeah Whitey.. I know.. but I'm a facts and figures guy and some say historian.. hahaha.. It's hard for me to see sometimes wrong info or wrong claims being discussed.. hehehe.. Cheers mate!

BTW, I really like your signature.. Who's that gal? hehehe..

Ergggggg u guys really force me to go in free proxy server again...hehehe

Ettan - Hows the history lesson. Thx to DK for his sharing knowledge.
I hope ETTAN learned something new abt Liverpool...

Now its my turn to learn history and few info abt Manchester United..Ettan can you help?

1. Why Man U is called Ultramans?
2. Why Man U goes for cheapskate jersey sponsor. ( As i know ADIDAS only sponsor 5 best team in the world ), why Man U not included
3. Why Man U lost 3x to Liverpool? any gf problem for the players, not enough sex and etc etc
4. why Man U are so fakap when playing against top teams.
5. why Man U always has more extra time and also more penalty than any other team?
6. why Alex ferguson thinks he is bigger than a EPL?
7. How long ferguson took to win first EPL under him?

ETTAN plz advice my question....I wanna learn the tradisional and history of Manchester United

elvinnnnnnnnnnnn!! hows ur new mod??? hehehehe

sorry OT...

Falcon- thx bro for the mod...fanstatic man.......flying like a Batman car now..hehehhe

1. Why Man U is called Ultramans?
coz some disrespectful gorgons call them that.. u ask the gorgons.. dun ask me

2. Why Man U goes for cheapskate jersey sponsor. ( As i know ADIDAS only sponsor 5 best team in the world ), why Man U not included
i think coz adidas canot afford to pay THE BIGGEST CLUB 303million pound


3. Why Man U lost 3x to Liverpool? any gf problem for the players, not enough sex and etc etc

MU DRAW POOL

League 58 43
52 FA Cup 8 4 3 League Cup 1 0 3 Other 1 3 2 Total 68 50 60 You wanna explain this 1st?
source

4. why Man U are so fakap when playing against top teams.
why liverpool so fakap when playing lower teams?

5. why Man U always has more extra time and also more penalty than any other team?
you have any statistics on these? i could not find any...

6. why Alex ferguson thinks he is bigger than a EPL?
you have any statement by him? i could not find any...

7. How long ferguson took to win first EPL under him?
i think 6 years?

ettan, it takes 8 years for fergie to win bpl.. but how many managers did liverpool hire and

still didn't any PREMIERSHIP LEAGUE TITLE?

shark is that NGOG in ya signature.....??... i think its him as he looks alike.....

NGOG kalau jual pon i doubt any BPL wanna buy him.... stupid streker n dun deserve to be in liverpool reserves....he so f***k uppp...

ngog idol shark bro... pasal itulaaaa dia letak ngog signature.....

ngong no doubt is a wasted fella..but he still give us something to cheer about we he scored against mu recently..

i hate that guy..that stupid a** guy..that guy lah bloody h*ll lucas...how can he miss a absolut free header..dont even work shay given to make a save...dont even notice him playing that nite till that moment.

ngog need very much time, it's not his fault, it's rafa's fault again to start him.

but what thierry henry did vs ireland is more unacceptable.. worst then maradona.

he's considering to retire after this world cup.. can't tahan the heat..

oik
waste my time answer ur question

coz u answered everything correctly bro, hehehe..

u still dont answer fully laaa bro......anyway i appreciate ur effort bro...And now i learned a bit of Manchester United

5. why Man U always has more extra time and also more penalty than any other team?
Ettan - you have any statistics on these? i could not find any...
Elvin - 10min injury time in one of the game..heheheheh..lariiiiiiiiiiiiiiiii
- CR7 scored lots of goal from penalty last season

6. why Alex ferguson thinks he is bigger than a EPL?
Ettan - you have any statement by him? i could not find any...
Elvin - Got banned for 4 match for trying to be smart with the official...hehehehehhe

just focus on your own team and stop hoping for favours fr others......now suddenly they want fair play fr the french......

yeah...fiorentina will go through...lyon ady got through...no need to field full strength squad...just put some reserves to play also good enough...lalalalalala...my prediction for la viola vs lyon...2-0 for fiorentina to win...

but mark my words... if fiorentina lose n liverpool win ................

MARK MY WORDS.....

we gonna beat fiorentina and qualify n go final ECL.... if la.... looks like we already f***k up actually ahhahah

NGOG and LUCAS.....bodo mcm penyapu buruk.... dah la tak hensem mcm evra....ahhaha

the french are known for their wickedness/cheating (henry should not play the handball in 1st place) no matter wat you see it, handball is a handball period...see the play off recently?...lol...i bet who ever french GK gonna play tonite will just simply let la viola a passage to knock out stage...lalalalala...

Dun waste ur time lah bro....
Mlm ni tdo lagi bagus.... next season DiverFool tak main kat Europe nye

they might have chance play europa league...europe jugak tu...lalalala

wah... why liverpool so many ifs one? if fiorentina lose lar, if liverpool win all matches for the rest of the season lar... wat if "I let u be a minister tomorrow" <a figure of speech>... haiz... not like u all need UCL and BPL so much?

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uhuhuu .. good luck to all LFC fans tonite ... ehehee .... but why need to depend on 'luck' ? hahaha.....

oii man shittty fans.. give face to my team a bit la... we r nearly out tonite..... heheh...cant imagine out of CL... tahts disaster....

shudn't be a disaster... at least Rafa doesn't see tat way....

another wat if: ngog use his hand to score an own goal??

i prefer lucas own goal...he got quite a bunch of own goal register to his name...lol...

if he does that...n that causes DIVERPOOR to crash out... he will be assassinated the next day...lol

by M7's kungfu kick!!

no lar...gonna get his house burned down...potential arsonist many la...since diverpool fan is hardcore one...

i will ask elvin to go n kill NGOG.... sadomise him pls elvin....pls ask shark to assist ty....ahhaha

Agree with Ons....
M7 will burn down his house, his car, his sofa (no plastic chair at home).... cabutttssss!

pls promise to take good care his girlfriend for him b4 u kill him...

i wonder today if lpool draw, will the response be...1 point gained better than 2 lost?????