terion
Apr 7 2010, 10:48 AM
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Advertisers makes it seem that everyone simply needs to have a 1080p display but we have finally found a chart to support our stance on the higher resolution. Some people can take advantage of the extra lines of resolution but sometimes, it's an unnecessary cost. Simply locate your viewing distance on the right hand side and screen size on the bottom, connect the two lines and bam, your optimal screen resolution. For instance in the Engadget HD lab, we sit around 10 feet away on our AOL-issued rolling chairs and we wouldn't see a picture quality difference if our 42-inch HDTV increased from 720p to 1080p. Everyone's HDTV viewing situation is different and while 1080p might be slammed into your face while shopping for a new HDTV, it might not be necessary for you.
Sos:
http://hd.engadget.com/2006/12/09/1080p-ch...to-screen-size/How to use the chart:
If from ur sofa to the TV is 10', then for you to really see the difference in Full HD (1080p) u need to get at least a 50' screen. Anything smaller than that, you won't be able to see the difference between HD Ready (720p) and Full HD (1080p)
Economist
Apr 7 2010, 11:02 AM
OMMMMMMMMGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGGG its backkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkkk
WhiteSurfer
Apr 7 2010, 11:37 AM
that is exactly the reason I bought a HD Ready only Panasonic 50" Plasma....save some bucks without compromising viewing quality.
terion
Apr 7 2010, 11:40 AM
yupe but i forgot to mention i important thing, if u plan to connect ur PC to ur LCD/Plasma, go for fullHD.
if using HD Ready, the pixel would be too big for u to be able to read anything on the screen.
WhiteSurfer
Apr 7 2010, 11:44 AM
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 7 2010, 11:40 AM)
yupe but i forgot to mention i important thing, if u plan to connect ur PC to ur LCD/Plasma, go for fullHD.
if using HD Ready, the pixel would be too big for u to be able to read anything on the screen.
yup...agree.
if u insist to connect PC to HD Ready screen....make sure u buy a 30ft USB cable for ur keyboard.....hehehhhe
terion
Apr 7 2010, 11:52 AM
no need la whitey.. nowadays everyone gone wireless already la
Falcon
Apr 7 2010, 02:05 PM
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 7 2010, 11:40 AM)
yupe but i forgot to mention i important thing, if u plan to connect ur PC to ur LCD/Plasma, go for fullHD.
if using HD Ready, the pixel would be too big for u to be able to read anything on the screen.
hehehe... thats what i do... 32" FullHD + Logitech bluetooth Keyboard & Mouse + reclining chair... ZzzzZZz
Infinity
Apr 7 2010, 02:53 PM
anyway, with blu-ray taking over DVD soon, it make sense to get a fullHD LCD/Plasma. Else 1-2 yrs down the road, you need to change the set again.
alxand_mitsubishi
Apr 7 2010, 05:14 PM
i'm receiving my 42" full hd pana's next couple week... so how far to max it?
terion
Apr 7 2010, 05:17 PM
alxand... ur sofa and the TV have to be between 6' to 8' to see the difference between fullhd and hd ready... anything further u wont be able to tell the difference...
Nick277
Apr 7 2010, 05:24 PM
omg this chart come out again lol
onslaught
Apr 7 2010, 05:24 PM
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 7 2010, 05:17 PM)
alxand... ur sofa and the TV have to be between 6' to 8' to see the difference between fullhd and hd ready... anything further u wont be able to tell the difference...
6-8 ft...hmmm...so for 40" lcd is abt 5ft?
terion
Apr 7 2010, 05:29 PM
yupe about 5'-7'... at 5' u would notice the difference even clearer...
nick i think u need to upgrade ur living room lcd to about 50' to see difference la... lol
Economist
Apr 7 2010, 05:29 PM
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 7 2010, 05:17 PM)
alxand... ur sofa and the TV have to be between 6' to 8' to see the difference between fullhd and hd ready... anything further u wont be able to tell the difference...
pls tell me how to see the diff?
terion
Apr 7 2010, 05:31 PM
the clarity of the image la
but in ur case since ur sofa is so far away from the TV, i doubt u can notice the difference
try playing a 720p and 1080p video from ard 6' and u will be able to see the difference...
Economist
Apr 7 2010, 05:43 PM
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 7 2010, 05:31 PM)
the clarity of the image la
but in ur case since ur sofa is so far away from the TV, i doubt u can notice the difference
try playing a 720p and 1080p video from ard 6' and u will be able to see the difference...
sigh the diff can be said to be minimal...only when the tv tell u wat reso is playing only u realise most of the time
terion
Apr 7 2010, 05:47 PM
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“There is a limit to how much detail we can see, therefore there is a point where the picture elements (pixels) will be so small they can’t be seen. There is a threshold of picture size where the detail in a 1080p image would be lost. At a fixed viewing distance based on a ratio of the image width to the viewing distance the minimum picture size to see a 1080p image is larger than for 720p.
While most of the numbers for the size of the display at which this threshold occurs are small, we’re taking a completely different approach to image size. We believe a 1080p image has to be at least five feet wide and viewed from about 1.4 times the picture width before you can begin to appreciate what is in a high-quality1080p image. Then there is the opposite point of view. If you get far enough away from almost any image it will look good.â€
basically the bottom line is this: if ur sitting far from the TV and cant afford a large full hd tv, then dun bother getting Full HD because u wont be able to see the difference...
WhiteSurfer
Apr 7 2010, 06:11 PM
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 7 2010, 05:47 PM)
basically the bottom line is this: if ur sitting far from the TV and cant afford a large full hd tv, then dun bother getting Full HD because u wont be able to see the difference...
correct...correct...correct.
like me no budget so what to do just watch from 15ft away lorr...money saved can go and buy media player.
Anyone has seen and experienced the latest 3D LEDs from Samsung/Pana?
axenophage
Apr 7 2010, 07:12 PM
Lucky my tv to my sofa around 2 mtr.haha..
alxand_mitsubishi
Apr 7 2010, 09:44 PM
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 7 2010, 05:17 PM)
alxand... ur sofa and the TV have to be between 6' to 8' to see the difference between fullhd and hd ready... anything further u wont be able to tell the difference...
u guys got to try neo plasma from pana...d*mn nice... the 3d even nicer...but led from samsung, i heard the got big problem in europe coz their led is not true led...led tv means like billboard all by led, wat samsung had is actually led lcd tv, i hope u guys get wat i mean...anyway the neo i saw yesterday is now 19999 for forget 5x or 6x inches....even not 3d but it already gives u 3d effect as u can c cleary who is front who is back...slurpeeee....anyway wat i'm getting is TH-P42X28K...
terion
Apr 7 2010, 10:09 PM
yupe its a common marketing ploy... the LED used in LED TVs are just to replace the florescent back lighting or non-LED LCD TV, thats all
the LCD that actually shows the image is still the same between LED or non-LED tvs...
alxand_mitsubishi
Apr 8 2010, 12:42 AM
which means the actual LED TV is still the 1 i saw online, developed by mitsu elect but i think it's for commercial rather than home :)
tao_k
Apr 8 2010, 03:42 AM
QUOTE(alxand_mitsubishi @ Apr 8 2010, 12:42 AM)
which means the actual LED TV is still the 1 i saw online, developed by mitsu elect but i think it's for commercial rather than home :)
i think it is the 1 that u can see on side of the road mostly placed at junction for advertisement.. shah alam got a lot
onslaught
Apr 8 2010, 07:20 AM
oi LED tv mana ada for home user lagi...wait another 1-2 years lor...now going 3D...samsung spearhead the market...harga beh tahan...
eldiablo
Apr 8 2010, 10:19 AM
CRT rules!
seriously back to topic - most LCD/plasma users complain that if they had the chance, they'd probably buy bigger screens but worried 50" is too big (is there such thing?) for content that is standard def and reveals too many visual artifacts. viewing approx 10ft.
whats your experience?
terion
Apr 8 2010, 10:27 AM
50" is ok as long as ur viewing distance is far > 10 feet... if too near, not only will u see lots artifacts from SD source, ur also be able see the pixels individually...
onslaught
Apr 8 2010, 10:31 AM
so smaller house no need big2 TV lor?
alxand_mitsubishi
Apr 8 2010, 09:02 PM
small house big lcd, benefit, 1 for the living room n also for masterroom, just hack a wall n install auto door, so when need c b4 sleep, just open door with remote n on the big tv, then when wan sleep close both,
or put a remote power turn table after hack the wall between ur room n living hall :) turn n turn :)
onslaught
Apr 9 2010, 09:01 AM
hack the wall? hahahaha...better buy bigger house...lol...
what the price now for smallest fullHD lcd tv?just want to gauge...
32" i think can get for 2k now
terion
Apr 9 2010, 10:28 AM
i remember seeing on dell website can get samsung fullhd 32" tv for <1.8k... if non full HD is ard 1.3k only
eldiablo
Apr 9 2010, 12:46 PM
why want to go HD for 32" not worth it unless you sit very near or use it for Wii, PS3, PC? or bedroom... :)
terion
Apr 9 2010, 01:09 PM
yupe exactly the point eldiablo...
Economist
Apr 9 2010, 02:10 PM
maybe its for the bathroom?
anyway LG LF20 42 inch about 2280 n below now
onslaught
Apr 9 2010, 02:25 PM
QUOTE(terion @ Apr 9 2010, 01:09 PM)
yupe exactly the point eldiablo...
my house small2 only...so just wanna find nice lcd tv to squeeze inside the room...hehehe
eldiablo
Apr 9 2010, 03:56 PM
a 50" would be nice and the current crop of HD panels like a panasonic and other brands are approx 5kRM.
dont want to get 42/46 and then feel too small. any advise other than viewing distance?
WhiteSurfer
Apr 9 2010, 10:36 PM
QUOTE(eldiablo @ Apr 9 2010, 03:56 PM)
a 50" would be nice and the current crop of HD panels like a panasonic and other brands are approx 5kRM.
dont want to get 42/46 and then feel too small. any advise other than viewing distance?
Yup....if budget permits just go straight to 50/55 " size. But have you settled the debate : Plasma vs LCD
alxand_mitsubishi
Apr 11 2010, 12:05 AM
new pana plasma as good price now but long wait list, my fren shop now pana owe him more than 100 units... :)
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