Any here?


LGTC Radio Operator
(1) BasiKal - 9W2WHL
(2) 9w2ors - 9W2ORS
(3) setapakGT - 9W2BEB
(4)
(5)
(6)
(7)
(8)

Commercial (PRADAS, SCS, etc)
(1) BlackMamba - PR-FJ (PRADAS)
(2)
(3)

Interested List
(1) Nick277 - tunggu next RAE
(2)
(3)


Anyone interested in this hobby?

Are U?

9W2WHL check in..

me unreg user...pakai secara haram...ehehhee!!!

only one? Basikal.

i'm not also haha. going to take RAE only.

Sorry noobie here, wat's that exactly?

9w2ors, qth johor bahru, handle operator ben, 73!

9W2ORS.. 9W2WHL returning..

Handle Jamal.. QTH Pandan Indah..

If we have enuogh kaki .. may be we can introduce the the same to the club..

Juguarah .. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Amateur_radio

Close to home we already have few amateur club such as http://www.mares.org.my/
You can find good intro here http://www.mares.org.my/forms/guideline.pdf

For those who do not want to sit for exam & get certified.. you can always join the commercial club such as http://www.scs.net.my/

How this thing is good for a car club .. well it can be an alternative medium to communicate between members beside this forum... we can chat all days FOC with other members...

Just to give you an idea.. I can chat from KL with 9W2ORS in Johor ... just using radio.. but come to think of it.. we have handphone to do just that.. well .. it is a hobby...

salam contact kenal....recently seldom QSO coz busy on work...and yet to install radio on my LGT...can email some picture on how to mount the antenna on LGT, coz i found that not much places that we can fixed the antenna? i reckon that going to use super gainer 9700....any comment?

9W2WHL maybe u can introduce this hobby to the club during TT or AG? :)

9W2ORS ..
for our ride.. i suggest you use "cili padi" antenna
will set you back around RM80 .. and max TX power is 5W
The thick RG cable will not fit the gaps (thanks toi Jap's precision)

Nick277

Thank for the invitation.. will try to join next TT ...
Actually i did demo to a few members during TT at Ampang last year..
I believe Seamaster was around also that time..

you means quarter wave antenna? i reckon that going to install dual bander...and looking for higher TX power....i'm been using icom v8 for more than 5 years as handy and mobile as well, it is the time to get a new rigs. currently using larsen antenna for my offroad 4x4, and diamonds mc101 on my ex-storm & ex-prado.....my immediate idea is to high mounted the antenna on the sideroof, right above driver's window frame. when entering those multilevel parking, just wind down the window and tilt the antenna....do you have any picture on how to install the antenna on your car? cheerio 73!btw, my facebook id bencho4wd@yahoo.com....

radio installed....spent about 2 hours to figure it out how to mount the antenna...phewww!

nice.. Actually how to pronaunce ur name?

Hey u. i know u. ORS?

can chat private 1 to 1 ?

9W2ORS..

Huh.. Icom V8 comes wth 75 watt max power..
Cili padi definitely cannot handle...

You are using Diamond Super Gainer right .. ?
I think SG7500 (Dualbander)..
Good setup with the bracket....

basikal. i nak beli radio (yang mobile bukan handheld). any recommendation? icom yaesu kenwood.. sudah blur.. dual band? any shop?

missed the april RAE. kena tunggu satu tahun ke?

9W2BEB...seldom & lama x on air....sold my CB to a friend....I think my license's gonna expire soon...

Nick277, you got PM

RAE is conducted more than once a year..
Attend the class (1 weekend) before you sit for exam..
Better chance to pass...

Bro 9W2WHL...as a Ham, can you listen to the kereta tarik's (tow truck operators)frequency? If so, how do you identify their frequencies?

Thank you kindly Otai 9W2WHL

ben cho... u means offroadershack ? i'm offroad kaki, my offroad rigs called "orange". u?yes, SG7500, but dismantle it and put back my MC101, coz SG7500 too heavy, and not suitable to use it if you are mobile at high speed, unless you have a good mounting bracket. I'm using supercall bracket.

Ayooo.. I'm not Otai la wehh...


Lets talk about frequency ..

Government, thru MCMC had allocated several frequencies for different uses..

High Frequency (HF)
Used to communicate between continent .. the signal bounce back to earth when it hit the sky
Frquency is <10.000Mhz

Very High Frequency (VHF)
Commercial band (taxi, security company) is using between 120.000Mhz to 133.000Mhz
Amateur band is using frequency between 134.000Mhz - 140.000Mhz..


Tow truck + tonto are using Trunk Radio .. their frequency is in the range of 800.000Mhz to 900.00Mhz (Digital)


Ultra High Frequency (UHF)
Commercial repeaters.. for example for LGTC Club in the future will be between 440.000Mhz - 470.000Mhz

Your mobile phone (GSM) is using 900Mhz (digital) and 1800Mhz (digital)

ASTRO is way out of the league... 40.000Ghz - 270Ghz....


For full spectrum of frequency .. you may refer to ... http://www.mares.org.my/files/planv2_3.pdf

Common people like us will most likely be using either VHF or UHF...
The Motorola walkie talkie widely used in the club is using UHF (no need licence)
UHF is especially good to be used within building as the signal is not affected much by walls and floors

VHF on the other hand .. is especially good for long distance... but you need a license...

Notice the difference bands (HF, VHF & UHF)...
To transmit (TX) at different band .. you need different antenna...
Either HF, VHF or UHF .. but you can also use a 2 in 1 antenna.. (Dualband) like the one 9W2ORS is using..


The mobile rig or handy comes in this classification too...
Certain popular model like Motorola, Yaesu & Icom also comes in Dualband...


To answer you tango.. no we cannot listen to tow truck freq as they are digitize or use certain tone to "scramble" their signal...


Later, I will share about repeaters with you guys....

Thank you kindly Otai 9W2WHL...your clear and concise reply is very much appreciated and most valuable + Rep to you

anyone else interested? i think Basikal can arrange a demo for the club during one of the TTs. this amateur radio range is far betetr than the normal walkie talkies we use during convoy.

bro basikal pls continue to share more info :) thanks

i wanna use SSB....

on top of 9W2WHL explanations, the TX distance are very depends on few factors, especially wave propagation (kena tengok cuaca, hehe) and how good are your radio setup. for instant, a similar radio with different antenna setup, the TX distance might be very. A good 5w of TX power can shoot & trigger for repeater that located more than 15 to 20 KM away with proper antenna setup, but handy with 5 w can only transmit for about 1 to 2 km, and HF radio can transmit directly from point to point without repeater to couple of thousand KM away, example from malaysia to vietnam, hong kong and etc. indeed, good antenna are crucial inorder to get the most optimum TX quality....probably 9w2WHL can take over for the explanations.... ...73!

thanks... how far can Diamond NR770HB antenna go with a 50w rig on VHF. or 35W on UHF?

depends on propagation...and your surrounding. my normal practice is, try TX on V40, just call for any station monitoring, and quote your call sign, someone will try to QSO with you and then you can ask for audio check for your signal readability ® & signal strength (S).btw, nick277, we knew each others? mind to share?

havent sit for RAE yet keke. studying guideline book now. havent met saw ur name in ORS.

OT a bit, ...u r from ORS as well? ID?

salam contact perdana

salam contact kenal...handle operator ben, QTH taman molek. 73 cheerio de 9w2ors

same ID :) newbie

his name is 9 whiskey 2 oscar romeo sierra :)




LGTC Radio Operator

(1) BasiKal - 9W2WHL
(2) 9w2ors - 9W2ORS
(3) setapakGT - 9W2BEB
(4) BlackMamba - ?
(5)
(6)
(7)
(8)
(9)
(10)


Interested List
(1) Nick277 - tunggu next RAE
(2)
(3)

Anyone interested in this hobby? We can get basikal to introduce to us and demo.

Wah amazinglah how you guys and gals are very proficient with all the short forms...QSO, RAE, TX, QTH, PIE, BKE etc

This comes with all those years of comm over the radio waves whilst doing your bit for yourselves and the society

sounds interesting.. but dont know where to start and what is it ...

will be quite interested to know more about this...although i dont think i'd like to have such a long antenna sticking out of my car... !

if we get enough ppl we can have a special TT where Basikal can arrange for someone to come demo to us :)



LGTC Radio Operator
(1) BasiKal - 9W2WHL
(2) 9w2ors - 9W2ORS
(3) setapakGT - 9W2BEB
(4)
(5)
(6)
(7)
(8)

Commercial (PRADAS, SCS, etc)
(1) BlackMamba - PR-FJ (PRADAS)
(2)
(3)

Interested List
(1) Nick277 - tunggu next RAE
(2)
(3)

normally we will transmit using Q code and spell out the alphabet by using alpha phonetics (refer below)

A Alpha
B Bravo
C Charlie
D Delta
E Echo
F Foxtrot
G Golf
H Hotel
I India
J Juliet
K Kilo
L Lima
M Mike
N November
O Oscar
P Papa
Q Quebec
R Romeo
S Sierra
T Tango
U Uniform
V Victor
W Whiskey
X X-ray
Y Yankee
Z Zulu

and Q code that normally used during TX:

QRL - busy
QRM - interference
QRO - increase TX power
QRP - decrease TX power
QRQ - send / TX faster
QRS - send / TX slower
QRT - stop TX
QRX - standby / call again
QRZ - who calling me?
QSA - signal strength (S)
QSL - acknowledge of receive
QSM - repeat last TX
QSO - communication thru example , radio
QSY - switch frequency
QTH - location
and etc.......

i am glad to see this thread is picking up the momentum...

kamahraj...
since this is just a hobby.. it is ok to take it slow...
my experience.. this radio thingy is not for everybody...
some may be interested.. some may think it is not their cup of tea...
cooldad is quite expert in this area (hmm.. haven't seen him for quite a while)


kevii ..
no need that long tonto style antenna..
alternatively.. we can use a small antenna (quater wave) ..
about 6 inches long.. barely visible ... :)

Mr Prez...
with your agreement... i plan to organize small TT for those interested..


Proposed detail..
Date : 2nd July 2010
Time : 10.00pm onward
Location : RnR Awan Besar (toward Puchong)

ok guys.. i am not always online ..
but whenever i am free.. i'm gonna do short write up on the following:

1. Frequencies - done
2. Repeater (simplex vs repeater)
3. Antenna (unidirectional, yagi, j-pole.. etc)
4. SWR
5. what you need to know abt sitting for RAE
6. commercial radio club ( for those who is too lazy to sit for exam .. just pay membership ..)
7. morse codes (believe me .. it is easier than you think)
8. mobile setup & home setup (base)

all these subject are widely available on the internet..
but i am gonna discuss from laymen / LGTC point of view..

ok .. let jump to the 2nd topic .. Repeater...


In essence.. repeater does one thing .. i.e .. repeat the signal.. hehehe..

Radio signal travel at speed of light ...and it also inherent the characteristic of light .. i.e. move in straight line..
Which means .. in area with lots of buildings / hills / mountain / Lancer GT .. radio signal won't travel far..

So.. how do we go about to send signal through these buildings / hills / mountain...
This is where repeater come into the picture..

Normally erected on high building or on top of the hill (Genting highland is very popular place for this)
Instead of shooting the signal through building.. across town... the signal now travel up to Genting..for exampla..
Upon receiving the signal .. the repeater transmit the same audio back to surrounding areas...
By doing this.. we eliminates the blockage..

Taking the light analogy... this is like using a mirror to deflect a light thru corner...
Think of it as periscope in submarine...

In a nutshell, a Repeater consist of two radios ( either 2 handy or 2 rigs)
1 unit is to receive the signal from the ground... another unit is to transmit it back..
These 2 units are connected via a special connector..

Repeater units on buildings can draw electric supply from the building..
but those on the hill / mountain .. normally use solar panel as source of power..

oohh.. i almost forgot... what is Simplex..

simplex is a point to point connection...
example.. direct communication between one motorola handy to another handy...

in contrast .. you can transmit thru a repeater.. indirect ( no .. it is not called duplex )

any questions?

It is indeed an honour to be part of your Tango X-ray whenever you guys are Oscar November Alpha India Romeo

Charlie Echo Echo Romeo Sierra!

need to study more ....

out of that few Q code, i only know QSL...

Thanks Basikal and 9w2ors... keep the write ups coming. this thread seems to be picking up some interest.

I got a Yaesu 8800R rig as of yesterday. Using Diamond NR770 at home. Was recommended this so called cili padi antenna. Whats the difference in between these two? in terms of power/performance or what u call it reception?

Nick ..

Quick comparison..


Diamond NR 770
Bands: 144, 430MHz (2m/70cm) <-- dualband
Gain: 3dB, 5.5dB <-- good gain considering the price
Power: 100W, 200W <-- Yaesu max power is 60 watt .. so no problem
Pro : All rounder .. good in both transmit & receive


Cili padi
Bands: 144, 430MHz (2m/70cm) <-- dualband
Gain: 0dB, 0 B <-- no gain
Power: Max 5 watt <-- Using Yaesu you should only use LOW tx power..
using higher power will cause high standing wave ratio .. will damage your rig..
Pro : small & almost invisible .. nice for those who dont want people to know.. :)

For home (base) setup .. proper antenna is better ... click here home antennas

popular type include CP22E and F22A <-- VHF


however .. any antenna will work if your house is in good are (not in blind spot) be it NR770, cilipadi or the specialised for home one..

Abg Otai BaSiKaL,

1) Does Polis, Ambulans & Bomba use same frequency? i.e. When Polis communicate with Polis, can Ambulans and or Bomba also overhear the communication at the same time? Or do they use different frequency from each other i.e. Polis communication exclusively with another Polis across the country aje; Ambulans and or Bomba cannot receive the same communication? If so, does this mean there is an exclusive frequence for each one of these authorities?

2) In situation like 9-11, do these different authorities use the same frequency (eg. to synchronise and coordinate search and rescue)?

Bro Nick277...congratulations on making your jump May you enjoy the experience and knowledge gained from this beautiful and highly useful hobby