Went to collect my car today and saw the new batch GLS. It has a black interior similar to the GT dashboard trim. No beige. No wood trim. For those interested there is one avail almost immediately (Grey GLS black interior). (PENANG)

Word from the SM of this dealer (JM) is that the new price of RM122,980 applies for those booked Sept and after. I asked him specifically.

wah lao....MMC really messed up la......so many version wan this lancer has......haih....

Almost no difference! Easier to convert to GT like...

so now we will have 4 categories, 1. GT at original price, 2. GLS with biege interior, 3. GT at increased price and 4. GLS with black interior...heh...heh...now, all newmembers have to introduce which category their in.....

ya maybe have to include that in the registration form...

who knows the new increased priced GT might come with some extra accessories...

omg, this cant be true. I got my beige color GLS last 2 weeks and now the black interior GLS already in market. So pity me.

there is a GLS with black interior displaying at the SS2 showroom now but didn't snap photo lar..hehehe

black interior looks much better!!

i may have converted to this black interior gls if my car hasnt come...

there are 2 GLS with the new black interior in SS2 actually. 1 Black and 1 red. I have seen them with my own eyes. And yes the beige interior is history now and the dashboard just look like the GT. No difference. The only diff between GT and GLS is summarised:

External appearance:-
- 18" rim + sports tuned suspension vs 16" rim + normal suspension
- With spoiler and without spoiler

Interior :-
- black nappa leather in GT vs black fabric seat in GLS
- leather at the door handle area vs black fabric in GLS (unnoticeable becoz both are black color)
- GT has 6 CD player vs GLS single CD player
- GT with front strut bar vs GLS tarak strut bar (this are cheap)

you guys forget that the biggest downside of all is the brake system. GLS is smaller on both front and back compared to GT (I measured myself). These is the hardest or rather most expensive parts to replace/mod.

No need to change the interior. When more ppl are getting the GLS with the black interior, then our car will be more unique out there, since we have beige interior Again, one man's meat is another man's poison.

These "additional" shipments of GLS and GTs are termed "hijacked" shipments.

"hijacked"? Meaning MMM took other countries allocation?

If MMM can provide the GLS with 17" rim, then it is almost a perfect alternative to long waiting the GT.

yeah,,..the GLS biege interior one will be known as limited/special edition lancer one....heh...heh...

Wahlau, that is quite a different between GLS an GT. The SA was trying to convince me that the differences are oly Spoiler, Rim and Leather seat... How do we tell whether the suspension is sport tuned?

The problem is MMM didn't officially announce the GLS spec and let it sell as it is. Is this a Malaysia Boleh thing or purely screw up by Mitsubishi?

The SA only tells you whatever that can be seen from the apperance. I bet he didn't even says the CD player is a single CD player too?

Can anyone share some ideas about changing to the bigger disc brake? If got pricing better still....

Ya, he just told me the appearance differences. How can I be so careless, a 16" disc brake on 16" rim is impossible.... There is no way I wanna get a GLS. There are plenty of GLS in Penang, if there is anyone here would like to have one.

choy choy, if the disc brake is stated as 16" it actually means it can fit a 16" rims. The disc brake itself is not 16", even the one on the GT is rated at 16" but actual size is only 12"++

Thanks Terion.

Can someone confirm that the differences of

-Disc Brake
-suspension tuning
-CD player

are actually different? If the differences are only the apperance, rim, spoiler and leather seat, I may consider to get GLS as I can choose to install Evo spoiler.

Suspension don't have the front strut bar (not sure if name is correct) and maybe the spring and absorber different.. Need to ask GLS owners.

Disc brake - GLS smaller. Braking power you gotta ask current GLS owner.
Suspension - GLS softer as it is a non sports-tuned one. Confirmed by Desmond. You can change to Eibach like what Alxand did.
CD player - GLS has a single disc player. It's just that you don't get to select discs, thats all. GT one has got 6 disc CD changer.
and the front strut bar you can buy a better one outside, it is not that expensive.

suspension not sports tuned.
One single CD player.
no strut bar under hood.
16inch rims

I think these are the major differences.

Urgh... I got no concern on how many CDs the ICE can take but I really want greater stopping power and better suspension. A Lancer without good stopping power and suspension is deadly, 9th gen Lancer dirvers don't drive slow... Hate to got into this position. Ridiculous to raise a car price.

It might might MMM trick, but I'll make sure to choose the governmet that will let me buy cheaper car. I really got no where to release my dissatisfaction...

if i am not mistaken. u r from PG? If yes u can come and talk to some of us on Sunday night during our TT. What digitalase posted is true about the GLS as confirmed by other members in KL who have seen it, measure the disc, taken photos etc.

GLS is avail in PG now can be registered after CNY. but make ur decision fast. the new GLS has a black interior (no more beige+wood trim panel)

Yes, GLS disc brake plate is smaller (front and back) than GT.
Stopping power is OK for GLS provided you do not change the 16" rim to 18" rim. Bigger rim has higher torsion, which need more powerful brake.

Also, GLS is target for "slower" driver, so the lesser brake is meant for that.

Another question, I am not sure is the GLS brake pump same size as GT ?

I have seen the GLS and sit into it. The interior without leather seat is so cheap... Sorry if I offend you guys when saying this, GLS looks cheap... Really have to do some mod to make GLS to look good.

Is there any reputable third party can do leather wrapping around?

You could bring it back to the installers who installed the nappa leather....

but need to shop around for the best price.

My friend booked the GLS. Then asked to install the nappa leather. RM5k now.

Yo Choy Choy,
No offense to us. I think its just a matter of perception.

You've sit into a GLS with beige interior or the new one with black interior?

wahh nappa leather cost rm5k now? thats not cheap anymore.....rm5k u can mod ur exterior to evo appearance somemore got balance u can change ur tyre or spring or rim either......haih....

me understand choy choy's feelings just like i do suffer the pain for 5months 5 days.....but like others said.....u'll never regret coz its really worth the waiting.....

5k sounds a bit pricey.... usually approx 2k.....ya agree with others - you should shop around...

5k for nappa leather? how he got the price la?

at tl mac a few weeks back i saw a beige GLS sent to do Nappa leather, only RM2.2k sent in by the SA...

ur friend kena chop by he's SA ka?

Hhahah....perhaps....the SA said it's the exact Nappa leather. My friend went only last week, and the leather has risen!!!
I think the factory also know how to make money!

Came across this site from the magazine http://www.dk-schweizer.com/dk_schweizer/l...s/luxurious.htm

i think the 5k is including all beige painted to black, change carpet, roof carpet, etc?? is the one sent by SA also including the all thsese? 2.2k is cheap. but, like digitalase said, price increase oready? sigh.

Btw, i think this is off topic. should discuss in mod GLS to GT topic....

Hi, first post.

Regarding the diff between the GT and GLS - this has been covered in quite a few threads here. However I have not seen (or maybe I just missed it) anyone stating that one other diff between the 2 models is that the GT has anti-roll bar (or as some Americans like to put it, sway bar) while the GLS doesn't. If you drive hard and fast, this particular feature can be quite influential performance-wise (just like the other performance-oriented diff between the 2 models... suspension, bigger/stickier tyres, strut bar, brakes).

I'm a new GLS owner. Bought the car b4 this topic and I'm just shaking my head regarding the new black interior GLSes . Then again, my wife pressed me to get the car b4 CNY and I got it on eve of CNY. I just had a GT spoiler installed, an original fr MMM (ordered from EON); yeah, I know that there are way cheaper versions but TBH I just didn't really have the time to check/enquire. I'll just eat Maggi mee for a month

Next up in terms of changes would be the tyres and wheels. I'd driven the GLS hard on a few occasions during the past 4 days since I got it and I do think 18-inchers would be better. I'll then have to think of the brakes. After that, it'll be the anti-roll and strut bars. Only after the performance mods will I change the interiors.

PS. I generally use the Sports Mode/paddle shifts most times because response for quick acceleration in "D" mode is just, shall I say, "hesitant". Having driven a Ford TX3 ('91) for a long time, I just couldn't get used to this particular nature...

[edit] PPS. My one other gripe is the integrated sound system. Changing it by adding a power amp + subwoofer voids the warranty . An MMM staff told me there was an incidence in Penang whereby a GLS owner changed his sound system , which meant messing with the car's electronics, and a problem occurred that eventually led to the entire car catching fire!! Becoz of this, changing the sound system now voids the warranty. Heck, MMM wouldn't even, or can't, allow its authorixed service centers to do such modifications because of the integrated nature of the sound system (the dash is designed with this in mind, as one of the examples of the "integrated-ness"). The stock sound system is not good and for someone that enjoys good quality sound system while driving, this is just too bad. I guess I'll have to wait till the warranty runs out...

hi reverend. welcome. hope you will join us in the club soon and meetup. i think they call it the strut bar there has been some threads on this yes. also the suspension according to the experts here (not me) are not "sports tuned"

D is sluggish to most people but for me it's ok cos i drive slow.... :P

welcome to the club reverend, have made u a free club member, do join us as official LGTC member:
http://forum.lancerzone.com/index.php?showtopic=441

Actually I think we did discuss that the GLS lacks the front and rear strut bars.

But not to worry since Ultra Racing just recently came out with all sorts of bars for our Lancer inc the front strut bar. You can get one for RM220, overdrive just got he's fixed b4 cny at eneos...

I may be reading the responses wrong but IINM a "strut bar" is not an "anti-roll bar" (in case there's a difference between the 2 definitions either here or elsewhere); the former can be installed under the hood, secured on top of (only) the front 2 suspension struts; while the anti-roll bar goes under the car, again connecting the front 2.

Therefore according to my understanding and definitions, I don't think the GT has any strut bar but do have anti-roll bar while the GLS has neither.

Reverend,

Adding a subwoofer & an amp wont harm the car electrics, but since u say that it voids warranty, then dont do it. As for some of the Lancer owners i know, they have ady added in the subs and amps and the sound uqality is good.

If u want it better, just get a 3sixty and add it in.

Anyways, welcome 2 d club, come join us and u'll c all d VOID warranty mods tat members has done.

PS, as for the anti roll bar/strut bar, come TT with us and we'll discuss about it.

TBH, as long as I find a good accessory shop, nothing should go wrong and I needn't worry about the warranty.

Can you tell me, or point me to a thread/link, on how I can access the back of the integrated CD/radio player (so that I can add in the power amp+sub)? I don't see any way to "remove" the front panel...


I'm kinda new to this "auto-speak"... what's a "TT"? Sounds like a female anatomy to me...

i think the GT definitely has a strut bar, according to ur description since its attached to the top of the front suspension.

"TT" actually means Tea Tarik session.. not a body part..hehe see here for more acronyms descriptions:
http://forum.lancerzone.com/index.php?showtopic=70

There's a link here to show u step by step how to gain access to the ICE:
http://forum.lancerzone.com/index.php?showtopic=421

semantics. ppl call things differently. it's the bar under the hood. call it watever u want ;)

To remove the front panel follow this
http://lancertuners.com/modules.php?name=F...topic&t=609

Thanks for responding!


This actually isn't about semantics; according to my understanding, a strut bar is not an anti-roll/sway bar, period. As I said, one goes under the hood, the other actually under the car.

Try Googling for images on "strut bar" and "anti roll bar". You'll see they're totally different, and I'd assumed to have hopefully described the difference accurately in "layman's" terms (which was my intention) in one of my previous post in this thread.


This seems very helpful, I'll try it out myself. Thanks!!

call it what u like dude. they call it strut bar here. whatever makes u happy.

my local mechanic calls a drive shaft "riseup".

Is this article wrong ka?
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Strut_bar

p.s. im not disagreeing that strut n roll bar is diff. im saying that the GT has this bar and we call it strut.

Do agree with u tat a strut bar and an anti roll bar is quite different, therefore, i suggest u meet us, if u're around ere, n we'll point u 2 d right direction for the bars.

Nick,

D engine very d clean la......mine used to b like tat, abit dirty now...kekekeke

Strut bars are attached to the struts, held on by strut nuts attached to the strut bushings. Usually, found on the top of engine bay.

Anti-roll bars are typically found beneath the engine. Usually held by the "stabliser link", bush link or to the double wishbone link in some cars as they call it.

Struts bars perform the same function as the anti-roll bars, only difference is that during cornering, strut bars ensure that the geometry of the suspension setting remains FIXED. Anti-roll bars cant to it that precise due to the linkages to the suspension below (for nvh purposes).