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ZooL
QUOTE(alxand_mitsubishi @ Jun 4 2010, 05:33 PM) *
i still remember when i was a kid, the fire extinguisher slight smaller than 1.5L coke manage to stop an old car engine from burning...
who wan start group buy? since my dad in tat business (construction-fire system) i try ask him jalan


good effort thumbsup.gif thinking to get sri extinguisher promo
rewlie
QUOTE(gintell @ Jun 4 2010, 10:16 AM) *
Whatever it is, you better know the law for your own sake.

That is the moral of the story.


The law has been designed by an idiot that lives in the world where nobody cares anymore what happens to others, the most important is their own sake, so go die with ur law. go fly kite.
redlancer99
i think back to social problem, no trust among each others. Good lesson to everyone.
Anyway just a sad story as someone death.
warnutz
Think they need to come up with a new ruling, all 24 hrs petrol stations are not allowed to take all the fire extingushers back into their office. Must atleast leave 1 - 2 units at the designated areas.
melonkoli
QUOTE(warnutz @ Jun 5 2010, 05:19 PM) *
Think they need to come up with a new ruling, all 24 hrs petrol stations are not allowed to take all the fire extingushers back into their office. Must atleast leave 1 - 2 units at the designated areas.



AGREED...!! I think SHELL is doing that nowadays.
KenWong
Based on my limited knowledge, the law is as follows:-

Scenario 1

There is no legal obligation for any bystander to rescue a victim from danger. So for e.g. if you see a girl burning in a car and you could have put out the fire with a fire extinguisher but chose not to do so, nobody can sue you if she burnt to death.

Scenario 2

If you chose to help to put out the fire but failed and the girl burnt to death, again nobody can sue you for trying to help.

Scenario 3

If you try to put out the fire but were injured in the process, then you can sue the driver of the car who knocked into the girl's car (provided you did not use foolhardy attempts to try and put out the fire).

Just my 2 cents.
Jaguarah
QUOTE(KenWong @ Jun 5 2010, 06:08 PM) *
Based on my limited knowledge, the law is as follows:-

Scenario 1

There is no legal obligation for any bystander to rescue a victim from danger. So for e.g. if you see a girl burning in a car and you could have put out the fire with a fire extinguisher but chose not to do so, nobody can sue you if she burnt to death.


But if the girl survived the incident and she saw u just standing there and watching, can she sue u? confused.gif
tango
I don't care who is right or who is to be blamed. If I were in Mr Teo's shoes (We need more Malaysians like Mr Teo...He did everything he could within his means and capabilities in the most critical of situations...but one cannot clap with just one hand...it takes two to tango), I would do exactly the same that he did.

The only difference is that, upon digesting the intent of the petrol pump attendant's refusal to assist, I would endeavour to break the glass of that petrol station, grab the fire extinguisher, leave my name and phone number on a note to the petrol pump attendants, tell them to call police/ambulance/fire brigade if they wish and go back to the scene of accident to try to use the fire extinguisher as best possible to attempt to save the injured lady.

I may risk getting into trouble for my conduct above, but at least I know I can sleep tight after that knowing that at least I tried to make a difference. Irrespective of whether I succeed in saving the life of that injured lady, at least I will not have my shadow telling me me "...you could have done this; you could have done that..." for the rest of my life.

And yes, I still don't care who's right or wrong in this incident...the first priority is to secure the scene of accident (so that a secondary accident would not occur as a result of the primary accident) and to rescue the injured lady or any other injured individuals from that accident.
LancerInspired
QUOTE(gintell @ Jun 4 2010, 08:29 AM) *
The others are not nor are they obliged to assist (passer-bys, bhp attendants, emergency services, etc). They owe no duty of care, nor were they negligent in conducting their duties (in the case of emergency services).

Please consult a lawyer to get things into the right perspective.

I believe most of us are not lawyers la (well, I am not) and my understanding on law is just like anyone here. Law are made by human, but I think HUMANITY prevails if the two conflicts. I hope you are saying this just for our information and not really stopping you from helping others in similar situation.

QUOTE(gintell @ Jun 4 2010, 09:52 AM) *
Teo is actually in alot of trouble when he decided to help.

If the family members of the victim wishes claim compenstation, they can sue Teo (bhp). Because he chose to help, and failed in the process, the victim's family can sue him for negligence.

I believe Teo is a good man and he can sleep soundly at night. Knowing that he had tried his very best to save the girl's life.

If the family really sue Teo, I dont know what this world has come to. Even though you tell me that the law says Teo can be sued.

The law is memang there for a reason. And I thank you for giving us the picture from a 'lawyer' perspective.
RGT788
WHY don't we open a new topic , 2 side of us and have a practical case on Mr Teo ... being sued.
1 party defense Teo , and the other party try to sue him .. ( victim's family )
I personnaly think it is interesting.
And I will be the defendant supporter.

For to recent few post above , I fully agreed , do what ever u want as long as you can sleep and live happy....

ps... if BHP sue him... I think Teo in trouble... but , BHP will be trouble also to face to public, specially LGTC.
Kamahraj
its a very sad incident indeed.. but 1 simple fire extingusier would have made lots of differences.

do anyone know where can i get one ? portable unit for my car.. i remember we were discussion to do a GB for this but then the thread just died off...
rewlie
QUOTE(Kamahraj @ Jun 6 2010, 10:49 PM) *
its a very sad incident indeed.. but 1 simple fire extingusier would have made lots of differences.

do anyone know where can i get one ? portable unit for my car.. i remember we were discussion to do a GB for this but then the thread just died off...


http://www.firefighter.com.my/t1/index.php

Here you go, their building just near Federal Highway, behind Western Digital Kelana Jaya, you can enter from Kelana Jaya under the bridge before Western Digital flyover or from federal Highway, i got mine there, they are currently having a promotion.
alxand_mitsubishi
how much r they selling? size n it's dry powder or co2 type?
for car, 500g-1k n dry powder is suitable... i should get the quote today...
the throw away type is not suitable for car coz of high temp n pressuse in car... but it's bloody handy
eldiablo
QUOTE(Kamahraj @ Jun 6 2010, 10:49 PM) *
do anyone know where can i get one ? portable unit for my car..


you can walk into any Ace hardware or DIY store - they sell a few different types.
i recommend putting one in your home too. approx 35-65RM depending on type & size.
Nick277
Yup i got one from Ace. Planing to buy another 2. 1 put in house and 1 put in other car. If i recall correctly it was rm 55 or 65. will check n post pic when i go home
terion
maybe we can contact the supplier and get bulk discount?
RyanS
2 main manufacturers in malaysia

SRI and Firefighter
alxand_mitsubishi
got 1 from my dad, 1kg powder type (suits car fire) rm 48...
Kamahraj
can do GB ?
RGT788
QUOTE(alxand_mitsubishi @ Jun 7 2010, 09:53 PM) *
got 1 from my dad, 1kg powder type (suits car fire) rm 48...


May be show a photo will be more attractive. thumbsup.gif
nofear1979
QUOTE(alxand_mitsubishi @ Jun 7 2010, 09:53 PM) *
got 1 from my dad, 1kg powder type (suits car fire) rm 48...


can tahan longer?, if our car always under hot sun??
terion
alxand, can get more discount if we buy bulk?
alxand_mitsubishi
these type r suppose to last long n suit hot temp, as it's recomended is plan to keep in car n comes with hook i think...
lelong got few which is cheaper but dunno the source, these r local made...
pix n latest price tomolo,
nofear1979
QUOTE(alxand_mitsubishi @ Jun 8 2010, 06:36 PM) *
these type r suppose to last long n suit hot temp, as it's recomended is plan to keep in car n comes with hook i think...
lelong got few which is cheaper but dunno the source, these r local made...
pix n latest price tomolo,



ok.. if powder type... saya mau satu.. biggrin.gif
Kamahraj
count me in for GB
terion
GB discussion moved here:
http://forum.lancerzone.com/index.php?showtopic=9042
WillyVanilly
wah.... got ppl created a FB account to boycot BHP...

Chinese News on 8TV :
http://www.facebook.com/video/video.php?v=...4258&ref=mf

BHP (Boycott inHumane Petrol) :
http://www.facebook.com/BoycottinHumanePetrol
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